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Thomas Okken · 12-09-2018, 02:05 PM

(12-06-2018 09:54 PM)grsbanks Wrote:
(12-06-2018 09:35 PM)HP67 Wrote: I don't have a Prime so I haven't seen the language it uses.

HP-PPL. It's similar to Pascal and therefore structured and procedural.

It's also freakin' fast, especially on the latest and greatest G2 (Rev. D hardware).

If I were to shop around for a Prime, how could I make sure I got one with the latest and greatest hardware? If I were to buy direct from HP, could I end up with an older model?

On an unrelated note, I just took a look at the HP web site, and noticed that the 12C and 12cp are out of stock. Is that a coincidence, or are they finally being discontinued?

Terje Vallestad · 12-09-2018, 02:50 PM

(12-09-2018 02:05 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote: On an unrelated note, I just took a look at the HP web site, and noticed that the 12C and 12cp are out of stock. Is that a coincidence, or are they finally being discontinued?

Checking the UK site, there is no mention of 12c or 12 platinum at all.

grsbanks · (This post was last modified: 12-09-2018 02:55 PM by grsbanks.)

(12-09-2018 02:05 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote: If I were to shop around for a Prime, how could I make sure I got one with the latest and greatest hardware? If I were to buy direct from HP, could I end up with an older model?

It's ironic but in HP's home country, the US, the chances are that you WILL get an older Rev. C model.

So far I've only seen the G2 model sold here in Europe at these places:

derekenwinkel.nl (that's where I got mine)

SoloCalculadoras

A supplier in Cambridge UK whose name escapes me for now and searches don't seem to throw up anything.

On amazon.co.uk (at a premium price!)

(12-09-2018 02:05 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote: On an unrelated note, I just [...] noticed that the 12C and 12cp are out of stock. Is that a coincidence, or are they finally being discontinued?

I doubt that a machine that's been in production in one form or another for this long is suddenly going to be discontinued when there's not really anything to replace it. Who knows?

Valentin Albillo · 12-09-2018, 04:19 PM

(12-09-2018 02:55 PM)grsbanks Wrote: [...] when there's not really anything to replace it.

You sure ?

HP 12c Financial Calculator

and many more.

Have a nice weekend.
V.

cdmackay · 12-09-2018, 04:35 PM

I bought my Prime G2 (and both my 50g, from their last stock, now apparently gone?) from James at Oxford Educational, and I'd buy from them again. James was happy to check that mine was a G2 before shipping it.

no connection, just satisfied customer.

cdmackay · 12-09-2018, 04:37 PM

(12-09-2018 01:05 PM)RMollov Wrote: I personally can't think of real life reason learning yet another "real language".

fun is still real life Smile

grsbanks · 12-09-2018, 05:01 PM

(12-09-2018 04:19 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:
(12-09-2018 02:55 PM)grsbanks Wrote: [...] when there's not really anything to replace it.

You sure ?

HP 12c Financial Calculator

A mobile app may be nice to play with but it will never replace a physical calculator. Ever. Not in my mind anyway. The younger generations might not agree, but I prefer the physical feel of a key being pressed.

Valentin Albillo · 12-09-2018, 10:54 PM

(12-09-2018 05:01 PM)grsbanks Wrote:
(12-09-2018 04:19 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: You sure ?

HP 12c Financial Calculator

A mobile app may be nice to play with but it will never replace a physical calculator. Ever. Not in my mind anyway. The younger generations might not agree, but I prefer the physical feel of a key being pressed.

I'm pretty sure that HP is much more interested in targeting their calculators and smartphone apps to the "younger generations" than to a small, ever-diminishing bunch of die-hard old timers.

V.

**rprosperi** · 12-10-2018, 12:10 AM

(12-09-2018 10:54 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: I'm pretty sure that HP is much more interested in targeting their calculators and smartphone apps to the "younger generations" than to a small, ever-diminishing bunch of die-hard old timers.

I'm not sure if Valentin is correct, but at least part of me hopes that he is, as this would mean someone at HP is actually spending some time/effort thinking about the market(s) for their calculator IP. There has been little evidence of this for many years; the only clear evidence of any marketing thought at all has been the discontinuance of products, and that typically was only when suppliers could not longer provide parts, so not really much of a deft marketing move. The technical capability remains very strong - the Prime application runs on dedicated consumer h/w, Windows, Mac, iOS, Android and even Linux - but how to apply it seems a harder problem. I suppose some good news is HP will have the technology to apply, if/when such market decisions are ever made.