41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
|
06-15-2014, 03:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-15-2014 04:13 PM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #1
|
|||
|
|||
41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Folks, it's been over 33 years since the 41 was launched, and about 20 after its obsolescence - so it's probably time for a last community effort to preserve its module legacy.
The CL module library includes a very large selection of modules, but there are still a few elusive ROM images not available anywhere but dormant in your collections; yes we know who you are :-) Here's my appeal to your altruistic nature, calling for a donation of the ROM images to the community - which should not impact the collectors value of the real items. It's for sure a personal choice but say, what a better way to get the mileage out of your collector's gear than getting it back to life?? From my own I have contributed with several of those, extracting the images of the following: 300889_FACC Bank Beratung SW Buderus 2, Buderus 3 CalTrans Survey Fairfield Gear Design GE OBC Sys. KC135 W&B-1; KC135 W&B-2 MWK 3; MWK-4 OvenTrop 2 Schenk's YATCH SeaKing SNEAP 1; Sneap 2; Sneap 3 And here's the list of those modules still missing - do you have some/many of them?? If so, let the sharing begin! Code:
"To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-18-2014, 09:44 PM
Post: #2
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Hello Ángel,
I've checked and I have a module which is not in your list but for which there don't seem to be any ROM image available: Speed Machine I 82500B-A34 If you can provide some instructions I can extract the image. I have a PIL box, a Clonix & a Nov-64. |
|||
06-19-2014, 06:56 AM
Post: #3
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Hi Didier, thanks for offering - The SpeedMachine module is already included in the CL Library, with ID = 'SMCH", located at flash addresses 0x0B2 and 0x0B3.
As to how to extract the ROM image I used to do it with the MLDL2k and the HEPAX , but the easiest way to do it now is with the serial transfer features on the CL. I'll be more than glad to send the documentation to anyone interested. Gauging the otherwise overwhelming lack of response I think it's clear we'll never have a crow-funded project here. Too bad and a bit of a shame, but neo-liberalism reigns supreme these days... Cheers, 'AM "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-19-2014, 07:19 AM
Post: #4
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 06:56 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: Hi Didier, thanks for offering - The SpeedMachine module is already included in the CL Library, with ID = 'SMCH", located at flash addresses 0x0B2 and 0x0B3.Too bad, I don't have a CL As far as I know there are two versions of the SpeedMachine module. Are both included in the CL Library? |
|||
06-19-2014, 12:30 PM
Post: #5
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
What about specialty modules?
The 41 Bond Valuation/Pricing Module. The 41 Code Release Module among others. |
|||
06-19-2014, 01:01 PM
Post: #6
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 06:56 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: ... Crow funding is always available, but not reccomendable at all. Crowd-funding may be a better choice. :-) Best regards, Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) Please disregard idiomatic mistakes. My posts are mostly from old memories, not from current research. |
|||
06-19-2014, 03:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2014 03:09 PM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #7
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 01:01 PM)Andres Wrote: Crow funding is always available, but not reccomendable at all. Crowd-funding may be a better choice. :-) why, don't you like ravens? ;-) Maybe it's time to prepare the Spelling-ROM for the 41, all MCODE of course... PS: recommendable has 2 m's, not 2 C's "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-19-2014, 04:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2014 04:04 PM by Jeff_Kearns.)
Post: #8
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-15-2014 03:11 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote: And here's the list of those modules still missing - do you have some/many of them?? Angel, I have the FORECASTER 1 Module (but no documentation for it... which both I and Geir Isene have tried to obtain without success. Without the documentation, it is not very useful to me). I would however be happy to contribute its ROM image to the project. A couple of comments: > I am not fully conversant with the CL storage capacity. I assume it has sufficient memory to store all of these ROM images? > I do not know how to extract a ROM image (from either the 41 or any other calculator). I will have to research how to do so, unless you wish to send me simple instructions - but I assume some accessories not in my possession are required in order to do this. > I have a donor HP-41CV (and maybe also a HP-41C) that would made a decent candidate for a 41-CL upgrade, but have not invested in the CL circuit card yet. Time to get busy with that mini-project I have been intending to undertake for two years now! Jeff Kearns |
|||
06-19-2014, 04:06 PM
Post: #9
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
I've seen a Diamond Teller rom. I know who has it. Will prompt him to get it out and about. :-)
|
|||
06-19-2014, 04:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2014 04:09 PM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #10
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 04:06 PM)Gene Wrote: I've seen a Diamond Teller rom. I know who has it. Will prompt him to get it out and about. :-) Thanks, that one is also included already - but this is starting to pick up! "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-19-2014, 04:19 PM
Post: #11
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 04:03 PM)Jeff_Kearns Wrote: > I am not fully conversant with the CL storage capacity. I assume it has sufficient memory to store all of these ROM images? Yes, with its 2MB flash capacity I think the CL could easily hold all modules ever made... currently it has 233 modules on it, taking about 1.5 MB. Extracting the ROM image requires some way to connect the physical machine to the PC. Depending on the method used different tools are available, such as: 1. IL-PER for HP-IL to PC (I've never used this approach) 2. MDL2k Manager for MLDL, using HEPAX RAM and via USB 3. New Diego's USB direct connect tool (still in beta status I think) 4. The Serial link on the CL (easiest and simplest) I suspected this could be the difficulty, let me know if I can help. Cheers, 'AM "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-19-2014, 04:21 PM
Post: #12
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 12:30 PM)John W Kercheval Wrote: What about specialty modules? never heard/read about them and sure enough they sound intriguing... do you have access to the images? "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-19-2014, 04:49 PM
Post: #13
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
I'll look into it, They were produced while I was at UC Berkeley by our people.
The Code Release module was cool because it was used to "hack" other modules and print/display the code. |
|||
06-20-2014, 05:00 PM
Post: #14
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-19-2014 04:49 PM)John W Kercheval Wrote: The Code Release module was cool because it was used to "hack" other modules and print/display the code. wow, a hacker's module! Sounding better by the second, hope you can locate that jewel... "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-23-2014, 01:25 AM
Post: #15
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
What about the HP-41 AOS EMULATOR ROM?
|
|||
06-23-2014, 06:59 AM
Post: #16
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-23-2014 01:25 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote: What about the HP-41 AOS EMULATOR ROM? oh yes, that's a keeper! I've replaced the native OS with it on my units already ;- "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-23-2014, 07:19 AM
Post: #17
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense | |||
06-24-2014, 09:42 AM
Post: #18
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Hello Ángel
I checked my PC and found these ROMs (see attached picture). I believe at least some of them are on your Wanted-list. I wasn't allowed to attach them as .rar or .rom. Have you got an email that I can send them to? I also have two modules: ML-IDC and BC/UG IDC. If you are interested, I'll try to extract the ROMs. btw: how do you make the MOD files? I remember doing it 5-6 years ago with a C compiler, but I have totally forgotten how. Cheers Poul Kaarup, Denmark |
|||
06-24-2014, 05:48 PM
Post: #19
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Many thanks Poul, indeed those are on the target list! I've sent you a PM with my email; appreciate your reaching out and offering to share... hopefully your example spreads and other folks join the show.
Best, 'AM "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
|||
06-26-2014, 10:10 AM
Post: #20
|
|||
|
|||
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-25-2014 10:58 AM)Mike (Stgt) Wrote: IIRC there had been two versions of Squid's Barcode ROM. Do you have both of them? I don't remember two versions of Squid's Barcode ROM, but I know there are two versions of Squid's Extended IL ROM - I have a preliminary version, in ROM image only of course (you have it as well, don't you :-) J-F |
|||
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
User(s) browsing this thread: 26 Guest(s)