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John Casper · (This post was last modified: 12-07-2024 12:29 PM by John Casper.)

How will it improve Programming on the calc?Does the DM41L too have two line display?

**rprosperi** · 12-07-2024, 01:19 PM

See reply to previous post about DM15L w/2 line display.

The DM41L does not have a 2-line display and will not have that.

AnnoyedOne · (This post was last modified: 12-07-2024 01:57 PM by AnnoyedOne.)

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-18...#pid193743

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PS: Still waiting for the 2-line firmware.

John Casper · 12-07-2024, 04:26 PM

Can the keycodes be removed and replaced only by opcodes?

AnnoyedOne · 12-07-2024, 04:57 PM

(12-07-2024 04:26 PM)John Casper Wrote: Can the keycodes be removed and replaced only by opcodes?

As far as I know the only person to know anything about the DM15L two-line firmware update is Bob Prosperi.

Mentioned at the end of this HHC 2024 video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADUmQ5LX8gU

and in a few posts here. From what I know he's the only one with a beta version of the firmware.

To my knowledge SwissMicros has said nothing. Nor have I found anything on the SwissMicros forums.

So until someone gets the release firmware and/or documentation your question cannot be answered.

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Namir · 12-08-2024, 12:38 PM

The REAL secret of the new DM51L would be (said with tongue and cheek) that is supports neural networks deep learning, triggered by a combination of certain three keys. Perhaps it would empower the DML51L with an internet connection to special cloud server! That would give the HP-15 CE a run for its money!!

At least our calculator community would be in par with the rest of the world (if my halucination was true)!

I don't know what my wife spiked my diet coke with!!!

:-)

Namir

AnnoyedOne · 12-08-2024, 01:29 PM

(12-08-2024 12:38 PM)Namir Wrote: I don't know what my wife spiked my diet coke with!!!

Me either but I want some too Big Grin

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dm319 · 12-08-2024, 01:49 PM

I think we are too attached to our calculators as it is!

AnnoyedOne · 12-08-2024, 03:35 PM

I'm not obsessed! "Denial" is just a river in Egypt.

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Steve Simpkin · 12-08-2024, 05:42 PM

(12-08-2024 01:49 PM)dm319 Wrote: I think we are too attached to our calculators as it is!

Yes, in the very near future (2025) we will come to rely even more on our HP calculators. Behold the amazing capabilities of the HPXX2050 calculator!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rg2GvaK...sp=sharing

DA74254 · 12-08-2024, 08:18 PM

(12-08-2024 05:42 PM)Steve Simpkin Wrote:
(12-08-2024 01:49 PM)dm319 Wrote: I think we are too attached to our calculators as it is!

Yes, in the very near future (2025) we will come to rely even more on our HP calculators. Behold the amazing capabilities of the HPXX2050 calculator!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rg2GvaK...sp=sharing

I've read about the HPXX2050 before. Fun/interesting story. We do have this computing technology today (cell phones, or more correctly a computing device, which is also capable of doing phone calls). Though they missed with the memory capacity.. Smile

1GB was surpassed like 10 years ago. My cellphone has 12GB RAM and 256GB non-volative memory.

What I would like from the story, is the rocketliner. Imagine circumnavigating the equator in just 5 hours.. The flights I do (work related) from Europe/Riga to Ushuaia/Argentina could have been done in 4-5 hours incl plane changes at bigger hubs, rather than close to 30 hours as it is now.

Steve Simpkin · 12-21-2024, 11:47 AM

(12-07-2024 01:19 PM)AnnoyedOne Wrote: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-18...#pid193743

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PS: Still waiting for the 2-line firmware.

The wait is over.
https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4181

**rprosperi** · 12-21-2024, 12:55 PM

Merry Christmas DM15L and DM16L owners!! Smile

(and an early thanks for the about to be owners...)

AnnoyedOne · (This post was last modified: 12-21-2024 01:45 PM by AnnoyedOne.)

(12-21-2024 11:47 AM)Steve Simpkin Wrote: The wait is over.

Now all that is needed is for someone to load/test it and post screenshots.

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PS: Also a new manual but no (offline) PDF yet.

https://technical.swissmicros.com/voyage...er_manual/

And a description of the changes.

https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4181

Jase · 12-21-2024, 01:50 PM

Please don't yell at me, because I have not done any homework regarding the question I'm about to ask, but does the DM15C (credit card sized) calculator get a two row LCD option?

AnnoyedOne · 12-21-2024, 01:52 PM

(12-21-2024 01:50 PM)Jase Wrote: ...does the DM15C (credit card sized) calculator get a two row LCD option?

As far as I know the DM15C uses that exact same firmware as the DM15L so yes Smile

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Jase · 12-21-2024, 03:46 PM

(12-21-2024 01:52 PM)AnnoyedOne Wrote: As far as I know the DM15C uses that exact same firmware as the DM15L so yes

Man, that would be cool if the mini-me gets a 2-line option.

dm319 · 12-21-2024, 05:00 PM

I was hoping to get a video in sunlight, but it being the Winter Solstice, and also that I struggled on linux to use the firmware updater. In the end I used my wife's Window machine as the device didn't seem to be registering on my ubuntu-mate 24.04 device.

Anyway, here is a quick video of it running. It is very brief.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xsmwhayyfjg?s...o4j2UUQkDf

AnnoyedOne · 12-21-2024, 05:16 PM

(12-21-2024 05:00 PM)dm319 Wrote: Anyway, here is a quick video of it running.

Thanks for that. Now if only the new manual (link above) was also in PDF format for offline reading.

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dm319 · 12-21-2024, 05:38 PM

The conversions/constants was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise!

It's a very nifty little UI to it.

Press g-on to enter the constant/conversions. The x<>y switches between the two sets.

Almost every key apart from on/f/g/x<>y/<-/ENTER is a constant/conversion.

f and g then allow you to select which way the conversion goes, or a double press of either f or g will allow you to push the constant/conversion onto the stack.

ENTER then does your command.

Very Neat!