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RE: DM42 News - DA74254 - 12-09-2017 07:30 PM
Ordered
RE: DM42 News - Dave Britten - 12-09-2017 08:00 PM
Ordered, since I'm an easy mark. I'm expecting this will probably take at least 2-3 weeks for delivery to USA.
RE: DM42 News - smp - 12-09-2017 08:15 PM
(12-09-2017 07:18 PM)Mark Hardman Wrote: The DM42 is now available on SwissMicro's site:
https://www.swissmicros.com/order.php
Love,
Santa
Well, so much for the e-mail message to let us know about it... I signed up for it weeks ago, but I never got one. Sigh.
smp
RE: DM42 News - Michael de Estrada - 12-09-2017 08:19 PM
(12-09-2017 08:15 PM)smp Wrote:(12-09-2017 07:18 PM)Mark Hardman Wrote: The DM42 is now available on SwissMicro's site:
https://www.swissmicros.com/order.php
Love,
Santa
Well, so much for the e-mail message to let us know about it... I signed up for it weeks ago, but I never got one. Sigh.
smp
The emails will be sent out on Sunday at noon Swiss time (UTC+1), by which time they will probably be sold out. I bought mine within two minutes of its availability.
RE: DM42 News - Thomas Radtke - 12-10-2017 12:10 PM
Way to expensive for me, but nice there's a serious RPN-calculator made again. Congrats to Thomas for having a nice home for his free42 and lots of fun to all owners :-).
RE: DM42 News - pier4r - 12-10-2017 12:56 PM
Well we could just slowly save those 10 CHF per month, after 20 months it is there!
In the meanwhile I guess (and hope that):
(a) the community, at least here, would flourish again with new programs, challenges, discussions and so on.
(a.1) Although swissmicro has a phpBB forum, I think most of the community discussions would happen here (while there people would report bugs/feedback I think), since larger and/or established communities normally attracts more attention (given a topic).
(b) bugs may be discovered and hopefully fixed.
(c) more documentation could be published.
(d) may be the price will sink a bit. Maybe.
So as long term investment does not seem that bad!
RE: DM42 News - Luigi Vampa - 12-10-2017 03:39 PM
Jan Łukasiewicz' legacy is pretty alive! :0)
It doesn't stem from a mainstream global player, like HP, but the birth of a new RPN calculator always brings great news for everyone in the forum, IMHO.
Besides, and more importantly, Swissmicros' focus on the pros makes me wonder what novelties may we be offered in the near future. Would they be far from being able to include a parallel CAS mode in the DM42? I don't think so :0)
RE: DM42 News - pier4r - 12-10-2017 04:03 PM
(12-10-2017 03:39 PM)Luigi Vampa Wrote: Would they be far from being able to include a parallel CAS mode in the DM42? I don't think so :0)
Do not underestimate the cost of development of such solution. It is easy to state something, less easy to do it.
RE: DM42 News - Luigi Vampa - 12-10-2017 04:19 PM
I would rather say integration, instead of development. They wouldn't need to develop a CAS from the ground up.
Anyway, you are right, the integration of XCAS, for example, might certainly take quite an effort :.!
RE: DM42 News - Dave Britten - 12-10-2017 04:34 PM
I'd love to see it evolve into Free47, with features from the 17BII and 27S added. (Symbolic solver, list-based stats, finance, appointment alarms, etc.)
RE: DM42 News - Michael de Estrada - 12-10-2017 04:36 PM
No quiero CAS. Quiero RPN.
RE: DM42 News - Luigi Vampa - 12-10-2017 04:44 PM
Aber, warum nicht? / Why not?
RE: DM42 News - Michael de Estrada - 12-10-2017 05:00 PM
(12-10-2017 04:44 PM)Luigi Vampa Wrote: Aber, warum nicht? / Why not?
There are plenty of programmable CAS calculators out there, including the HP Prime, so we really don’t need any more of them. What we don’t have are proper RPN programmables, and the DM42 brings back this capability. HP has all but abandoned RPN programmables. The Prime lacks RPN programmability and the HP 50g has been discontinued. We are left with only the HP 35s as a scientific RPN programmable and it is extremely limited in its capabilities. I would rather see Swiss Micros focus exclusively on RPN, instead of being distracted by other capabilities which we really don’t need or want as true devotees to RPN.
RE: DM42 News - DA74254 - 12-10-2017 05:16 PM
(12-10-2017 05:00 PM)Michael de Estrada Wrote:(12-10-2017 04:44 PM)Luigi Vampa Wrote: Aber, warum nicht? / Why not?
There are plenty of programmable CAS calculators out there, including the HP Prime, so we really don’t need any more of them. What we don’t have are proper RPN programmables, and the DM42 brings back this capability. HP has all but abandoned RPN programmables. The Prime lacks RPN programmability and the HP 50g has been discontinued. We are left with only the HP 35s as a scientific RPN programmable and it is extremely limited in its capabilities. I would rather see Swiss Micros focus exclusively on RPN, instead of being distracted by other capabilities which we really don’t need or want as true devotees to RPN.
Word!
RE: DM42 News - Massimo Gnerucci - 12-10-2017 05:43 PM
(12-10-2017 05:00 PM)Michael de Estrada Wrote:(12-10-2017 04:44 PM)Luigi Vampa Wrote: Aber, warum nicht? / Why not?
There are plenty of programmable CAS calculators out there, including the HP Prime, so we really don’t need any more of them. What we don’t have are proper RPN programmables, and the DM42 brings back this capability. HP has all but abandoned RPN programmables. The Prime lacks RPN programmability and the HP 50g has been discontinued. We are left with only the HP 35s as a scientific RPN programmable and it is extremely limited in its capabilities. I would rather see Swiss Micros focus exclusively on RPN, instead of being distracted by other capabilities which we really don’t need or want as true devotees to RPN.
Ditto!
RE: DM42 News - Massimo Gnerucci - 12-10-2017 05:45 PM
If anything, it should offer the same hardware for the WP43 (once they will find the time to actually code it).
RE: DM42 News - Luigi Vampa - 12-10-2017 06:29 PM
A WP43 version of the DM42 hardware might mean ca. a couple hundred units in X years' time. I agree it would be nice to have it. So far the layout and UI seem gorgeous.
Nevertheless, adding a CAS to a CCS ('Computer Calculus System') might bring much wider target mark€t$, IMHO.
HP forgot RPN? Well, it doesn't necessarily need to be so in SM 's case.
'Armchair CEO dixit' ;0)
PS: it is so nice to discuss in this forum, with plenty of bright people around. No kidding. I felt so, and I thought, what the heck, why not saying so? Yep, I must be getting older >D
RE: DM42 News - Luigi Vampa - 12-10-2017 06:35 PM
Let's give Claudio L. some more time, and newRPL + XCAS could make such a charming couple! couldn't they?
RE: DM42 News - Massimo Gnerucci - 12-10-2017 07:27 PM
(12-10-2017 06:35 PM)Luigi Vampa Wrote: Let's give Claudio L. some more time, and newRPL + XCAS could make such a charming couple! couldn't they?
I don't care about RPL.
RE: DM42 News - hth - 12-10-2017 08:10 PM
A DM41 done right would probably be a good choice, thanks to the huge existing software base.
Håkan