[34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Printable Version

[34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Printable Version

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RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Didier Lachieze - 04-24-2014 10:58 AM

(04-24-2014 06:23 AM)walter b Wrote:
(04-24-2014 06:19 AM)Didier Lachieze Wrote: Spiral bound manual for me too.

Which one??

d:-?

WP 34S

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - walter b - 04-24-2014 11:42 AM

Hallo Franz,

(04-24-2014 09:21 AM)fhub Wrote: The WP34s manual at Sourceforge is already quite outdated (it's still version 3.1), so I've made an update for my private use.

You may do that. BTW, cVIEW isn't new. But as long as it's for your private use I don't really care.

(04-24-2014 09:21 AM)fhub Wrote: Since you are the creator (and copyright owner) of this manual ...

Now we're in a totally different ballpark.

(04-24-2014 09:21 AM)fhub Wrote: ... I'm asking if you would mind that I upload this updated manual (Edition 3.3), so it could be put on the WP34s site on Sourceforge?

I would mind, sorry. The copyright clearly states for said manual: No part of this publication may be reproduced or distributed in any form or by any means, or stored in a data base or retrieval system, without prior written permission of the author. Please refrain from publishing copyright material. Thank you.

d:-)

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - rprosperi - 04-24-2014 12:19 PM

(04-24-2014 04:24 AM)walter b Wrote: This is not a simple size reduction by a factor 1.414 (going from A4 to A5) but the text and tables were all dealt with individually. Font size was reduced by just 10% typically. Hence the increased number of pages. Just look at the equivalent of p. 31, for example:

Are you satisfied?

d:-)

Oh yes! I had not considered that you did a complete revision of all content for the adjusted size, yet another remarkable effort.

And this makes it certain I will be ordering 1 each of both manuals, spiral bound (assming we reach critical mass).

Thank you Walter!

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - colinh - 04-25-2014 01:19 AM

Hi Walter,

I'm constantly amazed at the amount of work you guys put into these projects. Much appreciated.

I'd order a 34S spiral-bound.

As an aside, the quality of the text (grammar, usage) is generally pretty good. There's just one thing that stuck in my mind, as you seem also to be at least slightly interested in languages...

You occasionally write "an hardware". You may be aware that some native speakers write "an historical ..." etc. This is, basically, wrong. "An HP30b" is correct because it's spoken as "an aytch pee thirty bee". But one doesn't say "it's an 'istorical 'ardware solution." (well, some people might -- but then you have to add "ain't it guv'nor?" at the end. Smile

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Paul Dale - 04-25-2014 04:47 AM

I imagine I'll do one of each. The binding isn't super important to me.

- Pauli

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - supernumero - 04-26-2014 03:47 PM

In for one spiral-bound WP 34s manual, please (if quoted volume prices are reached).

SN

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - EmmanuelC - 04-27-2014 08:52 PM

(04-24-2014 12:42 AM)BarryMead Wrote: You can count me in for a Spiral bound copy of the 34S manual. Thanks Walter

The same for me. Thanks !

Subtotal of orders - walter b - 04-28-2014 09:17 AM

Counting the orders received after I published pricing, we've reached ...

5 orders for the WP 31S spiral bound manual (Sanjeev, Jonathan, Pauli, Silvain, and Bob) and
9 orders for the WP 34S v3.3 spiral bound manual (Pauli, Jonathan, Silvain, Bob, Didier, Barry, Colin, Emmanuel, and supernumero).

All these were placed on condition that the volume prices are reached. Please note we're not there yet. So what can I do?

Taking out the inter-chapter pictures of the WP 31S manual, I'll end with 142 pages A5*. This will allow offering this full color spiral bound manual for just 20€ or 28US$ (or should I say 27.99$ ? ) provided there's a minimum of 20 fixed orders (costs explode for smaller numbers, sorry). Each book will have a solid cardbord laminated front and back (154mm x 214mm**, each 5/64 Imperial British thumbs thick).
For the WP 34S v3.3 manual, those pictures were taken out already. Thus the price of this 372-page full color spiral bound manual will stay at 28€ or 39US$ (or 38.99$ ) provided there's a minimum of 20 fixed orders (for reasons as above). Page format, front and back will look like above.
Shipping is worldwide for the costs I mentioned (5€ or 7US$ for 0.5kg, 8,50€ or 12US$ for 1kg). Air mail, of course. Within Germany, however, shipping will be only 3€ even for both manuals shipped together in one padded envelope.
Since a paperback edition of the WP 34S v3.3 manual will come out significantly more expensive than a spiral bound, I'll focus on spiral bound for the time being. Why should I let someone overseas print something less useful for more money?
Paperback WP 31S manual would just cost 2US$ less than spiral bound. I think I'll focus on spiral bound here, too - well worth the difference IMHO.

Come on folks! We can't proceed before the minimum numbers are reached.

d:-)

Edit:
* A5 is 148mm x 210mm (see ISO 216), corresponding approximately to 5 53/64 x 8 17/64 Imperial British thumbs.
** This corresponds approximately to 6 1/16 x 8 27/64 Imperial British thumbs (if that helps anybody).

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Guenter Schink - 04-28-2014 12:28 PM

(04-28-2014 09:17 AM)walter b Wrote: Counting the orders received after I published pricing, we've reached ...

5 orders for the WP 31S spiral bound manual (Sanjeev, Jonathan, Pauli, Silvain, and Bob) and

9 orders for the WP 34S v3.3 spiral bound manual (Pauli, Jonathan, Silvain, Bob, Didier, Barry, Colin, Emmanuel, and supernumero).

...

Come on folks! We can't proceed before the minimum numbers are reached.

d:-)

Count me in for both books.

Günter

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Jake Schwartz - 04-28-2014 12:46 PM

Hi,

Also please include me for both books.

Thanks,
Jake

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - colinh - 04-29-2014 03:33 AM

I guess most 34S owners simply don't know about the proposed manuals.

Perhaps a notice on the Sourceforge page might help? Or emails by people who made one for someone else?

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - walter b - 04-30-2014 07:57 AM

OK, I did brush up our SourceForge page a little bit. HTH

d:-)

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Hubert Weikert - 04-30-2014 01:56 PM

Even with the prices now better known, I keep my initial "order" up:
One of each please, spiral bound, for 31S and 34S v3.3.

Hubert

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - jebem - 04-30-2014 02:46 PM

Hallo, Walter,

Bitte, ich würde gerne ein Spiralbindung WP-34S-Handbuch (vorausgesetzt, die zitiert Volumen Preise).
Vielen Dank!

MbG,
Jose Mesquita
(Lisbon region in Portugal)

P.S.. I'm just testing the google translator... hope that I'm not shooting myself in the foot with that Smile

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - David Hayden - 04-30-2014 04:25 PM

Spiral bound 34s manual for me.

Thanks,
Dave

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - jhste - 05-01-2014 02:53 AM

I would like to order one A5 size spiral bound WP 34S manual. Please let me know the ordering instructions. I've used HP calculators since November 1975 and have about eleven in my collection. I love the WP 34S. Someone finally got it right. Smile

James H. Sterling
jhste@comcast.net

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - Marcus von Cube - 05-01-2014 08:43 AM

(04-30-2014 02:46 PM)jebem Wrote: P.S.. I'm just testing the google translator... hope that I'm not shooting myself in the foot with that

Be assured: You did! Big Grin

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - walter b - 05-01-2014 10:44 AM

Muito bom dia, Jose.

(04-30-2014 02:46 PM)jebem Wrote: Bitte, ich würde gerne ein Spiralbindung WP-34S-Handbuch (vorausgesetzt, die zitiert Volumen Preise).

OK, I get what you want but it's tight. Anyway, automatic translations are great fun. I still remember our whole family ROFL reading an automatic translation in a hotel lobby in San Diego (from English to German).

Seriously, take the time and start learning the language if you're interested in.

Cumprimentos

d:-)

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - jebem - 05-01-2014 11:43 AM

(05-01-2014 10:44 AM)walter b Wrote: Muito bom dia, Jose.
Seriously, take the time and start learning the language if you're interested in.
Cumprimentos

Hi, Walter,
So far, your Portuguese is excellent!

Ah... now I know why those German eBay sellers sometimes don't answer to me!

Concerning German learning, I believe it is a lost cause for me. I tried a couple of times when I was young, but I failed.
Then, after traveling so many times to Frankfurt (to attend seminars, and I have family there) I keep asking information in English to local people in the streets and keep getting very nice informative answers in German! When they realize I will not take advantage of that information, they kindly speak in English, and at the end, they tell me something like "... You are staying here a entire week??? You will speak German by then..." Smile

RE: [34S v3.3, 31S v1.2] Manuals - walter b - 05-01-2014 12:11 PM

(05-01-2014 11:43 AM)jebem Wrote: So far, your Portuguese is excellent!

Muito obrigado. But that's the easy part of it. Wink

jebem Wrote:Concerning German learning, I believe it is a lost cause for me. ... after traveling so many times to Frankfurt (to attend seminars, and I have family there) ...

If you've family here they should teach you IMHO. Something along the lines of "total immersion" - so you may speak proper Hessian after a while.

d;-)