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RE: Android - rprosperi - 03-25-2015 12:48 PM
(03-25-2015 01:54 AM)toml_12953 Wrote: I see it has the x^2 bug. If you press 5 then the x² button, it gives a syntax error rather than 25 as the real Prime and Windows emulator do.
Confirmed on Android 4.4.2 phone, but only in RPN mode, I believe same as the original bug.
RE: Android - toml_12953 - 03-25-2015 01:25 PM
(03-25-2015 12:48 PM)rprosperi Wrote:(03-25-2015 01:54 AM)toml_12953 Wrote: I see it has the x^2 bug. If you press 5 then the x² button, it gives a syntax error rather than 25 as the real Prime and Windows emulator do.
Confirmed on Android 4.4.2 phone, but only in RPN mode, I believe same as the original bug.
There's some other mode?
Tom L
RE: Android - compsystems - 03-25-2015 01:26 PM
How much is the value of the application, differs in each country?
for example in Colombia (south america) says $52,596 dollars or pesos?
RE: Android - Gerald H - 03-25-2015 01:58 PM
(03-25-2015 01:26 PM)compsystems Wrote: How much is the value of the application, differs in each country?
for example in Colombia (south america) says $52,596 dollars or pesos?
€ 22.43, not gone up since yesterday!
RE: Android - eried - 03-25-2015 04:42 PM
Demo in a Samsung Note 8 (4.4.3)
RE: Android - factor - 03-26-2015 12:02 PM
Maybe it is faster than the real Prime?
RE: Android - toml_12953 - 03-26-2015 12:09 PM
(03-24-2015 11:49 AM)parisse Wrote: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hp.primecalculator
#1 on my wish list: key clicks! There's currently no feedback when you press a key. On the real calculator, you have tactile feedback. I'd like a small beep when pressing a key on my screen to simulate the snap noise of the real thing.
Tom L
RE: Android - rprosperi - 03-26-2015 01:23 PM
(03-26-2015 12:09 PM)toml_12953 Wrote:(03-24-2015 11:49 AM)parisse Wrote: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hp.primecalculator
#1 on my wish list: key clicks! There's currently no feedback when you press a key. On the real calculator, you have tactile feedback. I'd like a small beep when pressing a key on my screen to simulate the snap noise of the real thing.
Tom L
I must agree, though I prefer haptic feedback. Without this feedback, one must literally look to verify that each keystroke was properly recognized (the issue is exacerbated by the small button size). The API on Android is very simple, however since there is no equivalent on any of the prior paltforms doing so is adding something new to Prime, though I would presume this is in the h/w layer, so should be straighforward? This is standard fare on all phone/tablet based calculators (Free42, go41cx, RealCalc, etc.); we hope this will come in a future update.
RE: Android - Tim Wessman - 03-26-2015 02:17 PM
Funny thing is, having a click noise on the calculators has generated more complaints for the other applications then anything else! It seems to be a very polarizing feature. :-)
RE: Android - Steve Simpkin - 03-26-2015 03:47 PM
(03-26-2015 02:17 PM)Tim Wessman Wrote: Funny thing is, having a click noise on the calculators has generated more complaints for the other applications then anything else! It seems to be a very polarizing feature. :-)
I can understand that. I somtimes turn audible key clicks on or off depending on the environment I am using it in, so it should be optional at least. The best implementations have an adjustable key click volume.
RE: Android - dbbotkin - 03-26-2015 07:18 PM
"The only way to do so at this time is either copy and paste (from text somewhere) directly into the emulator. Or else to load the file from the pc to the data folder on the android device. There is no direct connection to the connkit at this point."
Hi Tim,
I'm a complete NOOB to the Android and very used to iOS 'cut, copy and paste' functions, so exactly how does one "paste directly into the emulator"?
I can transfer a txt file from PC to the Android to either the internal storage or an installed SD card, but what is required for the Prime to access the "data folder on the Android device"?
Thanks,
Donal
RE: Android - toml_12953 - 03-26-2015 07:50 PM
(03-26-2015 01:23 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I must agree, though I prefer haptic feedback.
Is there a touch screen that actually gives you feedback as if there was a mechanical key at that location? I'd go for that!
Tom L
RE: Android - rprosperi - 03-26-2015 10:06 PM
(03-26-2015 07:50 PM)toml_12953 Wrote:(03-26-2015 01:23 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I must agree, though I prefer haptic feedback.
Is there a touch screen that actually gives you feedback as if there was a mechanical key at that location? I'd go for that!
Tom L
Many current phones and similar devices use a small metal weight mounted off-center on a (really) tiny motor. When you "press a key" the system runs the motor for a brief time (quarter->half second?) and you can feel the little 'buzz' caused by the out-of balance weight spinning. Given this is real mechanical motion, I'm amazed it doesn't affect battery life more, but it seems to not be a significant driver.
So, to directly answer your questio, no, it doesn't really feel like a true (especially HP) key-press, but the slight buzz gives your finger enough feedback that you can tell you hit the "key".
RE: Android - Dirk. - 03-27-2015 07:06 AM
Try the android program "real calc". My setting for the motor-time ("Button feedback") is 50ms. Just enough to hear it and feel a tiny feedback.
Dirk.
RE: Android - factor - 03-27-2015 01:05 PM
Is the link down?
RE: Android - rprosperi - 03-27-2015 01:08 PM
(03-27-2015 01:05 PM)factor Wrote: Is the link down?
Guessing here, but they probably pulled it while they fix the X^2 bug. Should only be a short while, maybe a couple days
RE: Android - Marcio - 03-27-2015 03:26 PM
Speaking of which, does anyone have any idea when they will release the next firmware update for the actual Prime?
Thanks.
Marcio
RE: Android - toml_12953 - 03-28-2015 03:00 AM
(03-27-2015 01:08 PM)rprosperi Wrote:(03-27-2015 01:05 PM)factor Wrote: Is the link down?
Guessing here, but they probably pulled it while they fix the X^2 bug. Should only be a short while, maybe a couple days
The Website is back but no update.
Tom L
RE: Android - Gerald H - 03-30-2015 08:55 AM
Site has been unavailable since bug discovery till now - You early innovators have found a real collectors' treasure! Trust you side loaded so you can preserve the original & get the update............should HP be bothered.........
RE: Android - Mariox - 04-01-2015 03:12 AM
Is back!