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Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-18-2018 06:08 PM
Hello, I don't want to resume any conflict, far from my way
but I ask please if is it possible to recover something of the lost material, it is very sad while opening a page saved on the browser to read what you see in the attachment
thankyou in advance
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - rprosperi - 05-18-2018 08:24 PM
(05-18-2018 06:08 PM)aurelio Wrote: Hello, I don't want to resume any conflict, far from my way
but I ask please if is it possible to recover something of the lost material, it is very sad while opening a page saved on the browser to read what you see in the attachment
thankyou in advance
What information are you searching for? Perhaps some users(s) have saved it and it is still available.
Asking Dave to try to restore all the lost data just so that a bad link never comes up is not reasonable (IMHO) however searching for a specific thing may be. Please give us a hint what are trying to find.
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-19-2018 09:35 AM
(05-18-2018 08:24 PM)rprosperi Wrote:(05-18-2018 06:08 PM)aurelio Wrote: Hello, I don't want to resume any conflict, far from my way
but I ask please if is it possible to recover something of the lost material, it is very sad while opening a page saved on the browser to read what you see in the attachment
thankyou in advance
What information are you searching for? Perhaps some users(s) have saved it and it is still available.
Asking Dave to try to restore all the lost data just so that a bad link never comes up is not reasonable (IMHO) however searching for a specific thing may be. Please give us a hint what are trying to find.
Thank you Bob for the answer, nothing of particular is urgent
I left opened in one of my browsers, in place to save (!) the links to several pages with threads which I found interesting and useful, in way to do not search them every time when needed, mostly concerning the 41CL...this is my fault
for example the upgrade by HPIL module, but for these ones I've found material on the GitHub site, which I remember they were linked to,
What about the others .......I don't know but I guess even are missing any replies by the same user in still existing threads if they have not been quoted by other users
I'll try to get one of those for example in the afternoon, but it's hard to list what you lost if not listed before
thankyou again
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - Zaphod - 05-19-2018 11:00 AM
There are ways to access threads which have been removed by moderation.....
I hope the mods won't mind me just providing the links to illustrate the way for the OP to view them .....
If you google a particular (removed) subject... say:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=3AAAW7naDoeVgAb_jbmABw&q=gpl+site%3Awww.hpmuseum.org&oq=gpl+site%3Awww.hpmuseum.org&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1223.22378.0.24825.27.26.1.0.0.0.102.1685.25j1.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.11.798...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j0i22i10i30k1.0.8_p4zahRWj8
You will see some of those links are now dead , for example if you click the 3rd one down in that list ^ (Entitled 'on and on') it says the page doesn't exist..
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiQ5Lb1zJHbAhWhI8AKHdWACcsQFggzMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hpmuseum.org%2Fforum%2Fthread-10638-lastpost.html&usg=AOvVaw2jwxjvjvAPAxGvYNKesJtl
But if you click the little down arrow/triangle at the end of the pages description:
![[Image: Screen_Shot_2018-05-19_at_12.01.49.png]](https://s9.postimg.cc/9bkzf9vkf/Screen_Shot_2018-05-19_at_12.01.49.png)
it does still exist in google's cache. (for now at least)
If you know the actual title of the thread that you can't find anymore , you should be able to use the technique above to get the data you require on your browser privately ....
That's the only help I can give you.
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-19-2018 11:25 AM
(05-19-2018 11:00 AM)Zaphod Wrote: There are ways to access threads which have been removed by moderation.....thankyou for the hint
[omissis]
That's the only help I can give you.
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-20-2018 05:30 PM
(05-19-2018 11:00 AM)Zaphod Wrote: There are ways to access threads which have been removed by moderation.....Hi Zaphod, I've tried a few times but I don't understand where is the arrow you are talking about (and showing), the only arrow I see on my browser is the one in the address box, sorry if I don't understand, but I cannot acces to the cache
But if you click the little down arrow/triangle at the end of the pages description:
it does still exist in google's cache. (for now at least)
If you know the actual title of the thread that you can't find anymore , you should be able to use the technique above to get the data you require on your browser privately ....
That's the only help I can give you.
I've tried with three different kind of browsers
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - Zaphod - 05-20-2018 05:39 PM
I’m using safari on a Mac , the triangle shows ok (as per the screen shot I posted above)
But no such triangle on my iPad Pro, nor does it show on my iPhone browser
I’m not near a Windows PC so I don’t know what shows on that (I use Firefox on that )
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-20-2018 06:26 PM
(05-20-2018 05:39 PM)Zaphod Wrote: I’m using safari on a Mac , the triangle shows ok (as per the screen shot I posted above)
But no such triangle on my iPad Pro, nor does it show on my iPhone browser
I’m not near a Windows PC so I don’t know what shows on that (I use Firefox on that )
I also use Firefox, but no such triangle, indeed
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - rprosperi - 05-20-2018 06:34 PM
The triangles appear in google search results on Windows in both IE11 and Chrome, but do not appear on Android. Likely this feature is suppressed on mobile web pages as the triangle is so tiny it would be near impossible to touch.
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - Zaphod - 05-20-2018 06:35 PM
You could also try https://web.archive.org/web/20180402220404/http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/
Picked at random from 2.4.18
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - ijabbott - 05-20-2018 07:53 PM
(05-20-2018 06:34 PM)rprosperi Wrote: The triangles appear in google search results on Windows in both IE11 and Chrome, but do not appear on Android. Likely this feature is suppressed on mobile web pages as the triangle is so tiny it would be near impossible to touch.
You get the downwards triangles to the right of the green URLs on Android Chrome if you select the "Desktop site" option in the "three vertical dots" menu. It's a bit tricky to click on the triangle as they are rather small, so some zooming may be required.
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - aurelio - 05-20-2018 11:25 PM
(05-20-2018 06:26 PM)aurelio Wrote:found instead, thanks.........(05-20-2018 05:39 PM)Zaphod Wrote: I’m using safari on a Mac , the triangle shows ok (as per the screen shot I posted above)
But no such triangle on my iPad Pro, nor does it show on my iPhone browser
I’m not near a Windows PC so I don’t know what shows on that (I use Firefox on that )
I also use Firefox, but no such triangle, indeed
The problem with the cache, is maybe that you can see just one page if the thread is longer, the one...... in the cache
RE: Hope is never lost, I guess - rprosperi - 05-21-2018 12:18 AM
(05-20-2018 07:53 PM)ijabbott Wrote: You get the downwards triangles to the right of the green URLs on Android Chrome if you select the "Desktop site" option in the "three vertical dots" menu. It's a bit tricky to click on the triangle as they are rather small, so some zooming may be required.
Great point. I totally forgot Android Chrome even allowed that; I tried it out in the past, but never use it, as it's a PITA to use many desktop controls, for obvious reasons. Though it is impressive how well the full desktop pages render in mobile browser.
Thanks.