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HP-67 - what was so special? - AndiGer - 03-04-2019 07:37 PM
Today sold on German TAS.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-67-Hewlett-Packard-Taschenrechner-programmierbarer-Kleincomputer-/123659509868
I don't see what was so special people spent SO much money. OK, looks very clean, wasn't used much I think ... It is worth so much? Wow ...
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Maximilian Hohmann - 03-04-2019 08:53 PM
Hello!
(03-04-2019 07:37 PM)AndiGer Wrote: It is worth so much? Wow ...
Of course not. Looking at the bidding history I suspect that the price was pushed up deliberately by fake bidders in the hope to raise the average value of HP-67s or vintage calculators in general. Recently eBay Germany had a promotional offer of a flatrate fee of 2 Euros per item and I guess he used that offer to keep his cost down. We will soon see that calculator appear again. It really looks nice and is certainly worth something between 100 and 200 Euros. But not 1000.
Regards
Max
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Paul Berger (Canada) - 03-04-2019 10:27 PM
If only they where selling for that, the card reader probably does not even work. Its kind of odd too that the description is for a 41CV.
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - CY-CL - 03-05-2019 03:49 AM
The calculator is very clean, and this is special for a 67.
It is very hard to find one in this collectible condition! On ebay.com is actually not one listed in clean condition. Some years ago a perfect one was sold there for 1250 USD.
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - burkhard - 03-05-2019 05:54 AM
It looks exceptionally nice (best I've ever seen), including the printed materials, but that is a whole lot of Euros!
Spinnereien!
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Jurgen Keller - 03-08-2019 09:53 PM
Well, people are willing to spend a LOT of EUROs for vintage stuff. Here is an example.
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Thomas Okken - 03-08-2019 10:48 PM
(03-08-2019 09:53 PM)Jurgen Keller Wrote: Well, people are willing to spend a LOT of EUROs for vintage stuff. Here is an example.
That particular item is not just vintage but also quite rare. If people start shelling out €81450 for a Commodore 64, then you'll know the world really has gone nuts.
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Jurgen Keller - 03-09-2019 08:14 AM
(03-08-2019 10:48 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote:(03-08-2019 09:53 PM)Jurgen Keller Wrote: Well, people are willing to spend a LOT of EUROs for vintage stuff. Here is an example.
That particular item is not just vintage but also quite rare. If people start shelling out €81450 for a Commodore 64, then you'll know the world really has gone nuts.
I'm fully aware of the rarity of the C65. The value of such items (like that very nice HP-67) is a very subjective (and probably emotional) matter and also depends on your financial situation. EUR 960.- is not a lot of money for everybody. There are people that pay such an amount from the petty cash ;-)
We can speculate why somebody paid that amount for this HP-67. Anyway, that's how auctions work: the one who bids highest wins!
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Jurgen Keller - 03-09-2019 08:29 AM
(03-04-2019 08:53 PM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote:(03-04-2019 07:37 PM)AndiGer Wrote: It is worth so much? Wow ...Of course not.
.. for you. But apparently for somebody else. IMHO that's a quite subjective matter and also depends on the financial "power".
I don't think that someone buys a HP-67 for EUR 960.- and hopes to sell it soon for even more. That would be very risky because the market is small and very well observed. If this item pops up again soon, we would all know what's going on and it would most probably be a losing deal for the one who bought it now.
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - CY-CL - 03-09-2019 09:59 AM
Not the buyer has made the price, the numerous bidders!
There were other fans who wanted also buy the HP-67
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Maximilian Hohmann - 03-09-2019 11:35 AM
Hello!
(03-09-2019 08:29 AM)Jurgen Keller Wrote:(03-04-2019 08:53 PM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote: Of course not.
.. for you. But apparently for somebody else. IMHO that's a quite subjective matter and also depends on the financial "power".
Well, like you (I guess....) I have been watching this market since eBay exists (20 years) and another 10 years before that, visiting flea markets, reading classified adverts, etc. Therefore I (think I) have a rough idea what prices these calculators typically fetch at auctions. And because of that I came to the conclusion that even a very clean HP-67 does not usually sell for 1000 Euros. One can of course not attach a universal "value" or "worth" to antiques or unique artworks. But there is something like an average price for every item, be it a Rembrandt or an HP-67.
Regards
Max
RE: HP-67 - what was so special? - Jurgen Keller - 03-09-2019 12:10 PM
(03-09-2019 11:35 AM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote: Hello!
(03-09-2019 08:29 AM)Jurgen Keller Wrote: .. for you. But apparently for somebody else. IMHO that's a quite subjective matter and also depends on the financial "power".
Well, like you (I guess....) I have been watching this market since eBay exists (20 years) and another 10 years before that, visiting flea markets, reading classified adverts, etc. Therefore I (think I) have a rough idea what prices these calculators typically fetch at auctions. And because of that I came to the conclusion that even a very clean HP-67 does not usually sell for 1000 Euros. One can of course not attach a universal "value" or "worth" to antiques or unique artworks. But there is something like an average price for every item, be it a Rembrandt or an HP-67.
Regards
Max
No, I wouldn't pay that much either. I'm also on eBay for a very long time and haven't seen many HP-67 in such nice condition. I think that made the difference here. I agree that there is kind of an average price for items in average condition. However, for mint items you'll often see a big deviation from the average price. This is also true, e.g., for coins. The guiding prices are divided into classes, depending on the condition of the coin.
Anyway, let's hope that this HP-67 has found a good home where it is appreciated and does not serve as a status symbol only.