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HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Johnboy - 03-28-2023 12:39 AM Hi, would anyone have a good colour scan of the box lid for HP 00041-15043 HP-IL Development Module, especially the rust red colour label at the bottom ? Any help appreciated. Thanks John RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Sylvain Cote - 03-28-2023 03:32 AM Unfortunately, this is one of the rare 41 module from HP that I do not have the original box. Actually, I do not remember when I bought an original one in the 1980's if there was even a box with this one. FYI, that module was released twice:
RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Johnboy - 03-28-2023 09:03 AM Hi Sylvain, To be honest I have no idea if there was ever a box either !. I just happened to have a spare brand new Ext-IO module box, so I thought I would re-label it to be my IL Dev Module Box, after all a 41c accessory box is a 41c accessory box, the only difference is the sticker on the front. I didn't know there were two releases of this module, is there an easy way to tell which one I have ? Cheers, John RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Massimo Gnerucci - 03-28-2023 10:59 AM (03-28-2023 09:03 AM)Johnboy Wrote: Hi Sylvain, Is there no label on your module? RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - rprosperi - 03-28-2023 12:42 PM (03-28-2023 09:03 AM)Johnboy Wrote: I didn't know there were two releases of this module, is there an easy way to tell which one I have ? The HP-IL Diagnostic Module was never released as a product per-se, it was used internally within HP, but over time eventually escaped both by HP service folks leaving modules in 41s sent in for service, and also via PPC. If your module has the normal (white lettering on black) HP-IL Devel ROM label, then it's the normal, released version. I think I still have my original box from the 80's and will check in the next couple days. IIRC, it was not the standard (red on beige) box style, but could be wrong. RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - ThomasM - 03-28-2023 12:43 PM Hello John, is this the label you are looking for? I think it is an early version. Greetings Thomas RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - rprosperi - 03-28-2023 12:46 PM (03-28-2023 12:43 PM)ThomasM Wrote: Hello John, Thank you Thomas!! Saved me form moving many boxes!!! RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Johnboy - 03-29-2023 01:42 AM I will have to dig mine out to see what version it is, brb ..... Cheers, John RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Sylvain Cote - 03-29-2023 03:33 AM (03-28-2023 12:42 PM)rprosperi Wrote: The HP-IL Diagnostic Module was never released as a product per-se, it was used internally within HP, but over time eventually escaped both by HP service folks leaving modules in 41s sent in for service, and also via PPC.Actually, the 00041-15043 version was released and was in official price lists with a SRP of 75.00 USD. It was also included in the 82166C HP-IL Development Kit. RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - rprosperi - 03-29-2023 12:49 PM (03-29-2023 03:33 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(03-28-2023 12:42 PM)rprosperi Wrote: The HP-IL Diagnostic Module was never released as a product per-se, it was used internally within HP, but over time eventually escaped both by HP service folks leaving modules in 41s sent in for service, and also via PPC.Actually, the 00041-15043 version was released and was in official price lists with a SRP of 75.00 USD. Wow! Thanks for correcting me! While I now recall the latter, I don't think I ever knew that it was formally sold and included on price lists. I don't doubt you about the price list, but which kind of list have you seen this on, e.g. in the common tri-fold brochure-type lists of that era, or on the full-page document-type lists? I have many of them and will peruse them to find it, primarily to see what other obscure products were included at that time. No need to scan it, just ;let me know the date if you find one. Of course the question now becomes what was the box/label like for the Diag ROM SKU that was sold.... RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Sylvain Cote - 03-29-2023 02:07 PM (03-29-2023 12:49 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I don't doubt you about the price list, but which kind of list have you seen this on, e.g. in the common tri-fold brochure-type lists of that era, or on the full-page document-type lists? HP Price List April 1984, p2 (standard white paper list) ref: HHC_2022_USB_DRIVE/PPC Archive 2.41/HP Materials/HP Price List 1984 04.pdf Code: | 00041-15043 | HP-41 HP-IL Development Module | $75.00 | RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - rprosperi - 03-29-2023 02:52 PM (03-29-2023 02:07 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(03-29-2023 12:49 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I don't doubt you about the price list, but which kind of list have you seen this on, e.g. in the common tri-fold brochure-type lists of that era, or on the full-page document-type lists? Oh, that's the HP-IL Development Module! I was referring to the HP-IL Diagnostic ROM above when I said it was never sold, which I still believe. And looking at the 82166C Contents one can see the HP-IL Development ROM was included here as well. I believe the "devel ROM" was a superset of the Diag ROM, which is likely how HP "productized" the earlier tool, originally intended for internal use. RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Sylvain Cote - 03-29-2023 08:00 PM (03-29-2023 02:52 PM)rprosperi Wrote: Oh, that's the HP-IL Development Module! I was referring to the HP-IL Diagnostic ROM above when I said it was never sold, which I still believe.Yep! you are right, the diagnostic version was never sold to the public. (03-29-2023 02:52 PM)rprosperi Wrote: And looking at the 82166C Contents one can see the HP-IL Development ROM was included here as well.Two modules and one manual was included. (03-29-2023 02:52 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I believe the "devel ROM" was a superset of the Diag ROM, which is likely how HP "productized" the earlier tool, originally intended for internal use. Code: * Diagnostic Develop. Description RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - HP-Collection - 03-30-2023 01:20 PM For those who wants to check their HP82166 Kits I've made a content list. Hope there are no mistakes: 82166A Kit • 2x 82166A HP-IL Converters • 2x 82167A HP-IL 0.5m Cables • 2x GPIO connectors • 1x 82166-60013 HP-IL Interfacing Board • 1x 82166-90002 HP-IL Converter Technical Manual • 1x 82165-90012 HP-IL Converter Manual Supplement 82166B Kit • 10x 82166A HP-IL Converters 82166C Kit Manuals & Softwares • 1x 82166-90020 The HP-IL Interface Kit, Technical Guide • 1x 82166-90016 The HP-IL Integrated Circuit, User's Manual • 1x 82166-90017 The HP-IL Interface Specification • 1x 82166-90013 Caution Card • 1x 5955-9425 The HP-IL System, Book, ISBN: 0-931988-77-2 • 1x 82166-90002 HP-IL Converter, Technical Manual • 1x 82165-90012 HP-IL Converter, Manual Supplement • 2x 5061-5271 HP-41 HP-IL Development Module • 1x 00041-90449 HP-41 HP-IL Development Module, Owner's Manual • 1x 00075-90122 HP-75 I/O Utilities, Manual • 1x 00075-12022 HP-75 I/O Utilities, Magnetic Cards • 1x 00075-90144 HP-75 RIOWIO, Instruction Card • 1x 00075-12025 HP-75 RIOWIO, Magnetic Cards Electronic Parts Early Kits (before mid 1983) • 8x 0683-1535 Resistor 15 kilohms 5% 25 watt • 8x 0698-3446 Resistor 383 ohms 1% .125 watt • 8x 0160-4292 Capacitor 330 picofarad 5% • 8x 1902-0953 Xener Diode 6.2 volt 1N753A • 8x 1902-0970 Xener Diode 33 volt 1N973B Electronic Parts Later Kits (after mid 1983) • 4x 1810-0651 HP-IL Hybrid Network Common Parts (Early+Later kits) • 4x 0160-0576 Capacitor 0.1 microfarad • 4x 0180-3135 Capacitor 10 microfarad • 4x 0160-4800 Capacitor 120 picofarad 5% • 4x 9100-1631 Inductor 56 microhenry 5% • 2x 0410-1305 Crystal 4 megahertz • 8x 0624-0626 Screw 2-28 self-tapping • 8x 3050-0626 Washer flat • 4x 0950-0852 HP-IL Panel Receptacle • 4x 9100-4226 HP-IL Pulse Transformer • 4x ILB3-0003 HP-IL integrated circuit • 2x 1820-2810 Microprocessor IC • 1x 9311-4320 82166C HP-IL Interface Kit Box RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Johnboy - 04-04-2023 12:16 AM I checked my module over the weekend, and I have the "official" on too. Thanks for all the info folks, much appreciated ! Cheers, John RE: HP41c HP-IL Development Module - Box pic ? - Johnboy - 07-18-2023 11:21 PM So, I am thinking of selling my 5061-5271 HP-41 HP-IL Development Module as part of a reduction of my HP calculator stuff ! I can't see any listed on eBay or anywhere else, which surprises me as I would have thought there would be a lot of these about considering they were included in the 82166 kits. Any idea what the 5061-5271 HP-41 HP-IL Development Module with a nice reproduction spiral bound colour manual might be worth ? Thanks John |