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Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John W Kercheval - 12-13-2014 09:32 PM
There are few, if any, who don't consider Carlton to be the greatest HP exec ever, if not the greatest woman exec ever. If not the greatest woman ever.
Her restructuring of HP was fantastic and revolutionized a stodgy, aging oligarchy. And now that she has entered politics, her future in The White House is exciting. Will she wind up there?
Who knows. But we can always hope.
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - Steve Simpkin - 12-13-2014 11:08 PM
Well I think it is safe to say the the changes that she presided over at HP during her tenure have had long lasting effects that continue to shape HP long after her departure.
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - Mark Hardman - 12-14-2014 12:01 AM
(12-13-2014 09:32 PM)John W Kercheval Wrote: There are few, if any, who don't consider Carlton to be the greatest HP exec ever, if not the greatest woman exec ever. If not the greatest woman ever.
Her restructuring of HP was fantastic and revolutionized a stodgy, aging oligarchy. And now that she has entered politics, her future in The White House is exciting. Will she wind up there?
Who knows. But we can always hope.
I think you're pulling our leg. Just as you did back in 2012. Your exact quote:
"Terrible HP leader & that college degree in Medieval Studies did not help much."
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John W Kercheval - 12-14-2014 11:19 AM
How do you know I was not pulling your leg then?
Carlie in 2016!
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - patrice - 12-14-2014 12:00 PM
The wicked witch ?
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - walter b - 12-14-2014 12:15 PM
John, not every bitter joke improves by repetition. Anyway if you elect Carly then she's what you deserve.
d:-/
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - Dave Frederickson - 12-14-2014 04:32 PM
Sounds like your plugging the candidate. (Not that way!) And that you've invested in a politician.
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John Galt - 12-15-2014 03:00 AM
Dream on. Carly Fiorina presided over massive organizational restructuring and thousands of layoffs that eliminated decades of innovative progress, leaving HP a shadow of its former self. As enticing the idea of accomplishing the equivalent at any government level may be, that will never happen.
Her qualifications for President are impeccable though. After all prior to HP she had zero prior corporate leadership experience, not unlike the current US President, so this significant and rare characteristic makes her the obvious choice to head the world's largest bureaucracy.
She also demonstrated great skill in garnering near constant media coverage. She thrived in the attentiveness fawning news reporters constantly lavished upon her. Covers of business magazines worldwide bore her image repeatedly - the very image of success! Her ability to form cooperative alliances and gain supportive colleagues was exceeded only by her ability to alienate everyone, isolating herself to the point that her board eagerly acceded to pay her enough to leave. The parallels are striking.
The first woman in history elevated to run a Fortune 500 company was a history-making event not seen again until November 2008. The entire world rejoiced these landmark societal advances, heralding the dawn of a new era of cooperation, peace, and equality.
It's hard to imagine a more qualified candidate. God's gift to HP can be God's gift to the whole world! Carly 2016!
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John W Kercheval - 12-20-2014 07:20 PM
Ok readers:
Carlie or Hillary.
Your preference?
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John Galt - 12-20-2014 07:35 PM
Difficult choice.
Mark Hurd or Léo Apotheker?
Hitler or Stalin? Arsenic or strychnine? Fire or knife? What's behind door #3?
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John W Kercheval - 12-20-2014 08:00 PM
As Americans, we are always faced with difficult choices- working through them is where our greatness lies.
Many times we win:
They laughed at Wilbur Wright when he invented... his younger brother Orville. They said he would never get him off the ground.
Other times we don't:
They told Gen. Custer- "One last stand and then you can go home."
We have an issue- Barack just can't run again. And Carlie and Hillary do seem to be coming down the pike as nominees.
What is David Packard and Billy Hewlett had said "You know, we just can't choose between RPN and AOS. So we will open a deli instead." We would all be living in a TI-controlled world. Would you want your kids to grow up under that type of regime?
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John Galt - 12-20-2014 08:10 PM
(12-20-2014 08:00 PM)John W Kercheval Wrote: We have an issue- Barack just can't run again.
Many institutions once considered unquestionably certain are no longer. I would not be so quick to make that assumption.
Reactionaries point backward; we point forward!
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - John Galt - 12-28-2014 11:00 PM
She might just be... perfect!
Carly Fiorina, the deadbeat presidential candidate
She is already hiring campaign staff. I suggest they get paid in advance. Maybe from her $21,500,000 severance.
Never mind the severance. While serving as HP's CEO, she earned:
• $1.9 million per speech she made. That's more than Hillary gets!
• about $5M per dollar of stock price lost (nice bounce when she left though)
• $13,000 per hour (eight hour day, ok, so let's say she worked sixteen hours a day. That's still a lot of money)
• > $8000 per job she cut (while regretting the "one lesson" she learned: not firing people fast enough).
Yet, years after she was fired she continued to be mystified by the loss of support from HP's board.
Incompetent, wasteful, clueless, and without remorse. Let's just get used to saying "President Fiorina".
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - Chris Randle (UK) - 12-30-2014 09:28 AM
(12-15-2014 03:00 AM)John Galt Wrote: Covers of business magazines worldwide bore her image repeatedly - the very image of success!
This resonated with me. I'm reading "Alan Turing: The Enigma" by Andrew Hodges, and John's comment reminded me of this quote from Turing:
"...like taking a statistical analysis of the laundry of men in various positions and deciding, from the data collected, that an infallible method of getting ahead in life was to send a large number of shirts to the wash each week."
RE: Carlton Fiorina- God's gift to HP - pito - 01-01-2015 08:00 PM
As I can remember (being the hp employee at that time) the main contribution of CF to the hp's continual success was her choice of clothing. Mimicked by all hp girls who were striving for greatness