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Буран/BURAN shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - compsystems - 12-28-2016 01:57 PM Source: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdanielmarin.naukas.com%2F2011%2F07%2F26%2Fburan-cuando-la-union-sovietica-supero-al-transbordador-espacial-de-eeuu%2F&edit-text= RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - Mark Hardman - 12-28-2016 05:38 PM While we could focus on the similarities and differences between the two program's shuttle hardware, I think the real difference was in the intended purpose and use of Buran. In a 2011 interview published in New Scientist, cosmonaut Oleg Kotov had the following exchange: Quote:New Scientist: After the cold war, why didn’t Russia maintain its shuttle programme? Absolutely chilling IMHO. Mark Hardman RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - compsystems - 12-28-2016 09:23 PM Unfortunately or fortunately, chernobyl ended with the USSR and many projects (space and science) were canceled in the following years. Something related: DRAKON is an algorithmic visual programming language developed within the Buran space project http://drakon-editor.sourceforge.net/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAKON RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - Vtile - 12-28-2016 11:57 PM I can see the similarities of the Dragon lang. and IEC-61131-3 Sequential Function Chart lang.(is older than the standard IIRC) or that old french system what the namw of it were have escaped from my head hm.. Anyway it a bit odd that these high-level highly abstract and highly autodocumenting languages haven't had more foodhold outside certain niche markets.. eh, maybe they aren't kewl enough. RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - Mark Hardman - 12-29-2016 01:45 AM (12-28-2016 09:23 PM)compsystems Wrote: Unfortunately or fortunately, chernobyl ended with the USSR. "Very good, Louis. Short, but pointless." -- Egon Spengler (Ghostbusters 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_th4Xe6Dsm4 RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - Massimo Gnerucci - 12-29-2016 06:52 AM (12-29-2016 01:45 AM)Mark Hardman Wrote: "Very good, Louis. Short, but pointless." RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - jch - 12-29-2016 07:34 PM (12-28-2016 11:57 PM)Vtile Wrote: I can see the similarities of the Dragon lang. and IEC-61131-3 Sequential Function Chart lang.(is older than the standard IIRC) or that old french system what the namw of it were have escaped from my head hm..Do you mean Grafcet ? I remember learning it in the early 80s, mainly to program PLCs. RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - Vtile - 12-29-2016 10:59 PM (12-29-2016 07:34 PM)jch Wrote:Yes that was it - Grafcet, but did it have language application or were it "only" a design system..? IIRC 5-series of Siemens Simatics did have something that were similar to Sequential Function Charts (if so name were certainly different, since it were before standard as Simatic 5 introduced in the 1979 ... wikipedia is a friend Graph5)..(12-28-2016 11:57 PM)Vtile Wrote: I can see the similarities of the Dragon lang. and IEC-61131-3 Sequential Function Chart lang.(is older than the standard IIRC) or that old french system what the namw of it were have escaped from my head hm..Do you mean Grafcet ? RE: Buran shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - jch - 12-30-2016 07:07 PM (12-29-2016 10:59 PM)Vtile Wrote: Yes that was it - Grafcet, but did it have language application or were it "only" a design system..? IIRC 5-series of Siemens Simatics did have something that were similar to Sequential Function Charts (if so name were certainly different, since it were before standard as Simatic 5 introduced in the 1979 ... wikipedia is a friend Graph5)..I used it as a design tool when I was a student, and I then had to translate the program to hexadecimal instructions for a PB100 PLC. However I never got to use it IRL, as well as PLCs. RE: Буран/BURAN shuttle, Copy or Inspiration - compsystems - 01-11-2017 11:56 PM http://danielmarin.naukas.com/2017/01/08/adios-a-igor-volk-el-hombre-que-pudo-pilotar-el-buran/ |