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How solve - yingwuluo - 08-08-2017 03:48 AM
1-x*2.72^(-50*y)=100/z
1-x*2.72^(-100*y)=150/z
1-x*2.72^(-150*y)=250/z
RE: How solve - ettlz - 08-08-2017 03:05 PM
With a pen and paper? \(x=-\frac12\), \(y=-\frac{\log_{2.72}2}{50}\), \(z=50\)
RE: How solve - Helge Gabert - 08-08-2017 03:10 PM
Starting values? Any ideas what the feasible solution space should look like?
Using fsolve(), with blind values x=-.1, y=-.1,z=.1*i, I get [-.5, -1.38 . . .E-2, 50].
RE: How solve - AlexFekken - 08-09-2017 01:52 AM
(08-08-2017 03:05 PM)ettlz Wrote: With a pen and paper? \(x=-\frac12\), \(y=-\frac{\log_{2.72}2}{50}\), \(z=50\)
Yes!
Really sad that somebody would even try a calculator or computer for a problem like this.
RE: How solve - yingwuluo - 08-09-2017 03:26 AM
solve([1-x*e^(?50*y)=100/z,1-x*e^(?100*y)=200/z,1-x*e^(?150*y)=250/z],[x,y,z])
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["[y,e^(-50*y),e^(-100*y),e^(-150*y)] is not rational w.r.t. y Erreur: Valeur Argument Incorrecte"]
fsolve([(1-x*e^(-50*y)) = (100/z),(1-x*e^(-100*y)) = (200/z),(1-x*e^(-150*y)) = (250/z)],[x,y,z],[-0.1,-0.1,-0.1*i])
undef
Above output is the result from HP Prime Graphing Calculator, something wrong with it, please help me check if there is any input mistake.
RE: How solve - parisse - 08-09-2017 05:52 AM
You can help solve by rewriting the system as a rational system
Code:
solve([(1-x*t) = (100/z),(1-x*t^2) = (150/z),(1-x*t^3) = (250/z)],[x,t,z])Code:
solve(e^(-50*y)=t,y)Code:
fsolve([(1-x*e^(-50*y)) = (100/z),(1-x*e^(-100*y)) = (150/z),(1-x*e^(-150*y)) = (250/z)],[x,y,z],[-0.1,-0.1,0.1])RE: How solve - yingwuluo - 08-09-2017 09:14 AM
i tried to input i in solve symbolic view，it shows that irror：invalid input，please help me fix this problem.
RE: How solve - Helge Gabert - 08-09-2017 01:58 PM
You didn't use the starting values I mentioned in my above post.
[-.1,-.1,.1*i]
Works for me.
RE: How solve - yingwuluo - 08-09-2017 03:03 PM
What are the theory for using this starting value.
i tried to input i in solve symbolic view，it shows that irror：invalid input，please help me fix this problem.
RE: How solve - Arno K - 08-09-2017 04:00 PM
I, as well as the others, I think, have not tried it in the solver-app. Switch to the command-line, I tried it in CAS, and the above mentioned entry beginning with fsolve(...) will do the job.
Arno
RE: How solve - yingwuluo - 08-09-2017 09:34 PM
Thank you all. The members here are very active in solving the problem.