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Dirk.nl · 08-10-2018, 02:12 PM

Hello,
Today received my new G2 HP Prime from derekenwinkel.nl (Klaas Kuperus).
HP Product: 2AP18AA # B1S.
Hardware version: D.
CAS 1.4.9
Operating System: V2.060.650.

This afternoon I have updated it to version 2.0.0.13865. This went smoothly.
It's faster than my old HW-A, I've noticed this by reallocating the app icons at Application Library.
I have not done any speed measurements.
Of course the G2 has the high contrast keys. For the rest the same appearance.
I’m very happy with my new G2 HP Prime!

compsystems · 08-10-2018, 02:27 PM

in the version of cas (CAS 1.4.9) is not explicit

currently it is in the version (CAS 1.4.9-59 )
https://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~parisse/giac.html

Dirk.nl · 08-10-2018, 02:46 PM

No new software, of course. For me the existing is okay.
Only new hardware.

Stevetuc · 08-10-2018, 03:05 PM

(08-10-2018 02:46 PM)Dirk.nl Wrote: No new software, of course. For me the existing is okay.
Only new hardware.

HI Dirk. Would you be able to run the savage and whetstone benchmarks in the software section on both the Hw A and G2?

This would make for a very interesting comparison.

grsbanks · 08-10-2018, 03:37 PM

Dirk, is this the Prime in question?

https://www.derekenwinkel.nl/hp-prime-gr...-1201.html

I see no indication that this is specifically the G2 model. If it is then I'm getting one...

Cristóbal De Jesús · 08-10-2018, 04:05 PM

Can you compare the screens? Is the screen better with the dark theme? Any other improvement?

toml_12953 · 08-10-2018, 05:16 PM

(08-10-2018 02:12 PM)Dirk.nl Wrote: Hello,
Today received my new G2 HP Prime from derekenwinkel.nl (Klaas Kuperus).
HP Product: 2AP18AA # B1S.
Hardware version: D.
CAS 1.4.9
Operating System: V2.060.650.

Their webpage still says Manufacturer code G8X92AA # B1S.

Do they ship only the new G2 or are they just shipping whatever they have on hand at the moment?

toml_12953 · 08-10-2018, 05:18 PM

(08-10-2018 03:37 PM)grsbanks Wrote: Dirk, is this the Prime in question?

https://www.derekenwinkel.nl/hp-prime-gr...-1201.html

I see no indication that this is specifically the G2 model. If it is then I'm getting one...

The pictures there are of an older model with a light blue shift key rather than the higher contrast newer keyboard.

Dirk.nl · 08-10-2018, 08:05 PM

grsbanks and toml_12953.
If you order a HP Prime at derekenwinkel.nl then I think you get a HP Prime V2 delivered. Calling or e-mailing with Klaas seems to me the best. I doubt whether there are enough G2’s, they have only been introduced in Europe yet. As far as the color of the HP Prime photo is concerned; will not be updated yet, I think.

Cristobal.
Dark theme makes no difference as far as I can see.

With mem - info is indicated:
Memory: 245.99 MB
Storage: 460.73 MB
I was surprised, what a lot of memory!

Jean-Baptiste Boric · 08-10-2018, 09:57 PM

(08-10-2018 08:05 PM)Dirk.nl Wrote: With mem - info is indicated:
Memory: 245.99 MB
Storage: 460.73 MB
I was surprised, what a lot of memory!

Are these the correct figures? Because this combined with all the info I've seen here so far sounds more like a completely new and different calculator that just happens to look exactly like the previous model rather than a normal hardware revision of an existing product.

Dirk.nl · 08-11-2018, 04:10 AM

Hi Jean,
The size of the memories are those that I see with Mem-info.
I do not know if the shots are correct, could be a mistake in the software, but I do not think so for now.
The appearance is the same; same screen dimensions, same housing, same keys. In other words; looks the same! Inside the hardware will be different, I think. Insiders can tell that better.

math7 · 08-12-2018, 08:16 AM

Hi, could you put some pictures? It's great!

Dirk.nl · 08-12-2018, 10:25 AM

Hello Stevetuc,
I performed the savage benchmark test on my HW-A and HW-D (G2) Prime.
HW_A between 548 and 567 mS
HW_D between 195 and 204 mS
On both machines A = 2500.00005268

See the program below.

Math7,
I have a bad camera, but the exterior is exactly that of HW-C with the improved color scheme!

Code:

EXPORT SAVAGE()

BEGIN

A:=1;

B:=TICKS;

FOR I FROM 1 TO 2499 DO

  A:=TAN(ATAN(EXP(LN(√(A+1)^2))));

END;

B:=TICKS-B;

END;

Note.
I do not want to open the Prime to look at the type numbers of the CPU and memories.
The lion battery is 2000mAh (7.4 Wh) instead of 1500mAh.

Stevetuc · 08-12-2018, 10:42 AM

(08-12-2018 10:25 AM)Dirk.nl Wrote: Hello Stevetuc,
I performed the savage benchmark test on my HW-A and HW-D (G2) Prime.
HW_A between 548 and 567 mS
HW_D between 195 and 204 mS
On both machines A = 2500.00005268

See the program below.

Math7,
I have a bad camera, but the exterior is exactly that of HW-C with the improved color scheme!

Code:

EXPORT SAVAGE() BEGIN A:=1; B:=TICKS; FOR I FROM 1 TO 2499 DO A:=TAN(ATAN(EXP(LN(√(A+1)^2)))); END; B:=TICKS-B; END;

Note.
I do not want to open the Prime to look at the type numbers of the CPU and memories.
The lion battery is 2000mAh (7.4 Wh) instead of 1500mAh.

Thanks for that. Quite some speedup!

Voldemar · 08-12-2018, 11:19 AM

How about battery life? It will not be detected right away, but in the long run there may be some differences.

Dirk.nl · 08-12-2018, 11:44 AM

Battery usage is difficult to determine, is often a feeling issue.
Maybe steps are taken such as, for example, idle mode, CPU slow speed, etc.

ijabbott · 08-12-2018, 01:03 PM

It would be great to get some official specs from a HP representative now that we can actually buy the thing!

StephenG1CMZ · (This post was last modified: 08-12-2018 04:21 PM by StephenG1CMZ.)

(08-12-2018 10:25 AM)Dirk.nl Wrote: Hello Stevetuc,
I performed the savage benchmark test on my HW-A and HW-D (G2) Prime.
HW_A between 548 and 567 mS
HW_D between 195 and 204 mS
On both machines A = 2500.00005268

See the program below.

Math7,
I have a bad camera, but the exterior is exactly that of HW-C with the improved color scheme!

Code:

EXPORT SAVAGE() BEGIN A:=1; B:=TICKS; FOR I FROM 1 TO 2499 DO A:=TAN(ATAN(EXP(LN(√(A+1)^2)))); END; B:=TICKS-B; END;

Note.
I do not want to open the Prime to look at the type numbers of the CPU and memories.
The lion battery is 2000mAh (7.4 Wh) instead of 1500mAh.

My implementation of the Savage benchmark gives a different constant - but it also provides an exact CAS version too, allowing CAS performance to be evaluated too. http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-9626.html
But I have no hardware to report results on Sad

eried · (This post was last modified: 08-13-2018 08:29 AM by eried.)

Somebody with the new HW needs to redo the 2013's HP Prime Battery consumption analysis again:

Big Grin

Joe Horn · 08-13-2018, 12:54 PM

(08-12-2018 10:25 AM)Dirk.nl Wrote: I have a bad camera, but the exterior is exactly that of HW-C with the improved color scheme!

Even the "regulatory block" on the back, which says "BC01" on G1 Primes? It would be nice if the G2 says "BC02" on the back, thereby making it easy to tell the G1 and G2 apart without turning them on.