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Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
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10-05-2020, 10:08 AM
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
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Allow me to stand in for anyone who doesn't use or understand torrents. How much stuff would I be downloading, in GBytes? Would I need to get several torrents, or is there a single latest one with everything? If there's a subsequent update, would I end up re-downloading all the stuff I'd already got? Any chance of also uploading to the Internet Archive? They take anything and they keep it forever. It remains publicly accessible so long as there's no copyright claim on it. It seems to me like a good backup for any particular technique. |
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10-05-2020, 08:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2020 08:21 PM by pier4r.)
Post: #162
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(10-05-2020 10:08 AM)EdS2 Wrote: .https://postimg.cc/HV3rfpPd Torrents at the start where updated quite frequently, now they are quite static (as I do not have much time). Thus updated every 1-2 years, and even then you can run a diff getting only what is missing. Quote:Any chance of also uploading to the Internet Archive? They take anything and they keep it forever. It remains publicly accessible so long as there's no copyright claim on it. It seems to me like a good backup for any particular technique.People can get the data and do it, I do not plan it for the moment (everyone can do a bit ). P2p is enough (and more community based) for me. Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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10-06-2020, 05:28 PM
Post: #163
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
Thanks. I do favour decentralisation, but I think torrents in particular do well with a critical mass, and one never knows the lifetime of an interest, so other approaches are useful in parallel.
As it happens, my network setup only allows me to download, not to share, so I can't help with the community aspect. I am now downloading three torrents, I think - ETA 4 days - and one torrent is stuck with no peers (hp_calc_torrent_u201805_as_a_zip_due_to_the_size.zip) |
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10-06-2020, 05:46 PM
Post: #164
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(10-06-2020 05:28 PM)EdS2 Wrote: Thanks. I do favour decentralisation, but I think torrents in particular do well with a critical mass, and one never knows the lifetime of an interest, so other approaches are useful in parallel. Yes the mass is important too, but I have quite some experience and although torrent is not ed2k, some things can last long as well. It is the same with websites like this one, there should be someone paying the bill at the end. Casiocalc.org was almost closed a couple of years ago but found a way to be moved. This to say, if there is no interest everything that is private or based on few individuals will go down as long as it is digital (digital things are very fragile). I also understand that there are networks were sharing is not easy (natted for example) thus if someone can upload it on other systems that aren't community based, it is great. The other torrent you mention has at least me as a source and the DHT is working, so no idea. Maybe you need to wait. I see that someone is getting data from 3 torrents. Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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10-06-2020, 08:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2020 08:58 PM by EdS2.)
Post: #165
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
Ah, yes, it seems my setup only wanted to pull from three torrents at a time, so the fourth one is now pulling actively now that the first one is done. My mistake!
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03-02-2022, 04:46 PM
Post: #166
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
little info. My homelab had once again an encounter with entropy (a system went down) and due to my chronical scarcity of time it will take a while for me to fix it and bring the torrents online again.
Cheers! Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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05-29-2022, 12:15 PM
Post: #167
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
update. Unfortunately my replacing system somehow crashes pretty regularly with torrent clients. I try every now and then (time scarcity) but it is not yet solved. I may solve it or move to ed2k network (but there it works only with single large archive files, rather than a large collection of files)
Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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05-31-2022, 03:23 AM
Post: #168
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(05-29-2022 12:15 PM)pier4r Wrote: update. Unfortunately my replacing system somehow crashes pretty regularly with torrent clients. I try every now and then (time scarcity) but it is not yet solved. I may solve it or move to ed2k network (but there it works only with single large archive files, rather than a large collection of files) I looked and I no longer have the files (hp_calc_torrent, hp_calc_torrent_u201809, and hp_calc_torrent_u201910), I've run my client for a little while and don't see any peers. If someone has these files offline, please considering placing them online so I can then begin hosting them. Try CC41! |
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05-31-2022, 04:51 PM
Post: #169
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(05-31-2022 03:23 AM)Craig Bladow Wrote: I looked and I no longer have the files (hp_calc_torrent, hp_calc_torrent_u201809, and hp_calc_torrent_u201910), I've run my client for a little while and don't see any peers. Strange. I've been seeding some of those for years (hp_calc_torrent and hp_calc_torrent_u201805), with almost 200 GB uploaded. I'm surprised I'm not showing up as a peer; others have been able to download from me in recent months (for example, I've uploaded over 100 GB on my hpcalc.org torrent since January). That said, almost everything in hp_calc_torrent is already on the HHC USB Drive that you have, and most of it is duplicated from my torrents or elsewhere on my site anyway, and the hp_calc_torrent_u201805 has been reformatted and both hosted on my HP Museum Forum torrent and included on the USB drive. I don't think I recall what was on hp_calc_torrent_u201809 or hp_calc_torrent_u201910, or whether I was even able to get them. If, following the nomenclature of hp_calc_torrent_u201805 they have the same content but updated, I never was able to get them either. |
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05-31-2022, 08:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2022 09:24 PM by ijabbott.)
Post: #170
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
I'm also seeding hp_calc_torrent.
I've seen hp_calc_torrent_u201809 and hp_calc_torrent_u201910, but didn't know what they were for. Well here are some listings from btcheck -l btcheck -l hp_calc_torrent_u201809.torrent Code: Base directory : hp_calc_torrent_u201809btcheck -l hp_calc_torrent_u201910.torrent Code: Base directory : hp_calc_torrent_u201910— Ian Abbott |
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06-02-2022, 07:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2022 07:22 PM by pier4r.)
Post: #171
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(05-31-2022 04:51 PM)Eric Rechlin Wrote: [ Oh I didn't know (or I forgot). I was trying - the last time I spent some time on it was in 2019, since then i tried to keep things alive in the network - to get all the bits I could find online and put them there. I have the HPmuseum (although from pre 2018) and the PPC data (again pre 2018) and I remember there was some overlap but not that heavy. Maybe I checked wrongly. But you are right you formatted better the hpmuseum. So actually the 201805 data could be left on its own (I hope the attachments are there too on the formatte version!) I kept the first post of this thread updated so the data is in 4 torrents. 1 base torrent, 1 extra too big (201805) and two small extras waiting for more work to be then merged. as in the first post (as of 2022-06-02) the magnets are Code: Actually there is a 5th torrent not yet released, those are mostly documents but very few. I still have all the data, but somehow the torrent clients that I used on the previous server crash continously on the new one (although the OS configuration is very close). I get 2-3 hours of running time and then crush and I didn't yet find the time to debug that. I could put the data on onedrive or the like too, but that defeats the point of having a p2p shared approach that can persist over time with community efforts. Eric many thanks that you donated 200 GB in upload for those collections! I remember I myself (the original source!) gave around 30 GB and not more. There are some torrents here https://www.hpcalc.org/torrents/ that on my previous system (the stable one) got much more data in output that the torrents I cared for. In particular hpcalc.org (although there was another peer that blasted be out of the way, I believe that was Eric himself. I could just give 300 Mb and then the client were already done and happy) and the one about the 41 calc (on that one there were more peers though). I'll try to find a way. In the worst case I have to try mldonkey or transmission but I am not sure how they work with previous versions of cygwin (or I fire a little VM just for those, but I'd like to keep the maintainance down). Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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06-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Post: #172
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-02-2022 07:19 PM)pier4r Wrote: So actually the 201805 data could be left on its own (I hope the attachments are there too on the formatte version!) Not only are all your attached media included in there, but I also made an effort to find others that were missing, using the Wayback Machine and other sources, to have as complete of an archive as possible. If you decide to do a newer snapshot of this forum, please let me know and I will try to update my copy after processing all the files. (06-02-2022 07:19 PM)pier4r Wrote: Eric many thanks that you donated 200 GB in upload for those collections! I remember I myself (the original source!) gave around 30 GB and not more. There are some torrents here https://www.hpcalc.org/torrents/ that on my previous system (the stable one) got much more data in output that the torrents I cared for. In particular hpcalc.org (although there was another peer that blasted be out of the way, I believe that was Eric himself. I could just give 300 Mb and then the client were already done and happy) It's unlikely it was me providing that much bandwidth. I only have a 5 Mbps connection to the Internet, which I pay US$90/month for, despite living near the center of one of the biggest cities in America -- thank you so much Comcast for giving me all the benefits of a monopoly. |
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06-03-2022, 12:40 PM
Post: #173
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-02-2022 07:19 PM)pier4r Wrote: I kept the first post of this thread updated so the data is in 4 torrents. Thanks for the updated descriptions. (Or thanks for the original descriptions if you haven't updated them and I only just noticed the descriptions!) Quote:I still have all the data, but somehow the torrent clients that I used on the previous server crash continously on the new one (although the OS configuration is very close). I get 2-3 hours of running time and then crush and I didn't yet find the time to debug that. Which client are you using? I've been using rtorrent for many years, although it does suffer from the occasional crash - probably a slow memory leak somewhere. Since it is terminal based, I run it in a GNU Screen session. (Other terminal multiplexers such as "tmux" should also work, but I'm most familiar with GNU Screen.) — Ian Abbott |
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06-03-2022, 05:50 PM
Post: #174
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
Earlier this week, overnight, the hp_calc_torrent completed on my Raspberry Pi 4. Thinking that now I able to support the torrent, I opened the hp_calc_torrent on another computer a few days ago and it has downloaded nothing.
Try CC41! |
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06-04-2022, 09:31 AM
Post: #175
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-02-2022 08:23 PM)Eric Rechlin Wrote: Not only are all your attached media included in there, but I also made an effort to find others that were missing, using the Wayback Machine and other sources, to have as complete of an archive as possible. Awesome! And "more awesomer!" is that I was under the impression that you got a snapshot of this forum at the time independently from mine, instead if I understand you correctly you built on my attempt. That is exactly what I was hoping for! The community building on each other attempts! Great. Indeed that is also my hope for the torrent data. If people want they can well expand the torrents and release new versions so it doesn't get lost! Quote:It's unlikely it was me providing that much bandwidth. I only have a 5 Mbps connection to the Internet, which I pay US$90/month for, despite living near the center of one of the biggest cities in America -- thank you so much Comcast for giving me all the benefits of a monopoly. I was under the impression that in the US there were laws against monopolies as they are not great for consumers(or at least regional governments would require providers to keep up with the technology without blowing prices) . 5 Mbps in a city in a developed country in 2022 is a travesty. I have the second smallest connection that my provider offers. 50/10 (50 down/10 Mbps up). Meanwhile they have also 100/40, 250/40, 1000/50 and my provider is not really providing that much compared to other cities (though what is important is the upload and many customers don't get it. If they want to have a videocall or a little website/sharing files upload is crucial). Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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06-04-2022, 09:34 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-04-2022 09:34 AM by pier4r.)
Post: #176
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-03-2022 05:50 PM)Craig Bladow Wrote: Earlier this week, overnight, the hp_calc_torrent completed on my Raspberry Pi 4. Thinking that now I able to support the torrent, I opened the hp_calc_torrent on another computer a few days ago and it has downloaded nothing. I am sorry for that, when I transferred the data between my cloud server (I do not keep the torrent there, since there is little disk space) and my NAS I was able to see all the data. At the moment I am not sharing. for the client, I am using a windows system, for that I mentioned "maybe I'll try cygwin". Normally qbittorent or the classical uT 2.2.1 . qbittorent though forgets at times the index of large collection so it is annoying. (interesting there aren't even that many clients available. I thought everyone and their dog did a client, but not, not the case) Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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06-04-2022, 09:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-04-2022 09:56 AM by ijabbott.)
Post: #177
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-03-2022 05:50 PM)Craig Bladow Wrote: Earlier this week, overnight, the hp_calc_torrent completed on my Raspberry Pi 4. Thinking that now I able to support the torrent, I opened the hp_calc_torrent on another computer a few days ago and it has downloaded nothing. I am seeding that more or less constantly and support incoming and/or encrypted connections. I don't know how trackerless DHT actually works though. Curiously, my upload amount on that torrent is exactly the same as my download amount, which suggests that I probably seeded it to one other person. — Ian Abbott |
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06-04-2022, 11:31 AM
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-04-2022 09:31 AM)pier4r Wrote: I was under the impression that in the US there were laws against monopolies as they are not great for consumers(or at least regional governments would require providers to keep up with the technology without blowing prices) . 5 Mbps in a city in a developed country in 2022 is a travesty. There are indeed laws against private corporate monopolies. However local governments can issue exclusive charters with negotiated tax provisions for revenue purposes under the theory that the service is a "public utility." The city argues that the public benefits from a uniform regulated service, but the reality is that the city pockets a new source of revenue that the public pays indirectly, and the provider has no motive to improve its service since it has a legally enforced captive market. Lovely. Remember kids, "In a democracy, you get the government you deserve." |
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06-04-2022, 08:55 PM
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-04-2022 09:31 AM)pier4r Wrote: And "more awesomer!" is that I was under the impression that you got a snapshot of this forum at the time independently from mine, instead if I understand you correctly you built on my attempt. Yes, I didn't want to put any more load on the server than necessary, and I thought I'd make your snapshot more usable. I actually made two versions of it. One is offline-browseable in the same format as my Usenet archives. That's what you can download in my torrent. The other is online-browseable, and that's what I imported into a live MyBB instance on my server. (06-04-2022 09:31 AM)pier4r Wrote: 5 Mbps in a city in a developed country in 2022 is a travesty. It really is. The most frustrating thing is if I lived 50-100 meters in any direction, I would be able to get full gigabit for $70/month. But when AT&T laid fiber in my city some years back, they somehow forgot my half of my block (or at least forgot to map it -- 17 houses are affected), so they won't let me sign up for it. So I only have one choice, not two like most people. I just got really unlucky. |
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06-11-2022, 10:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-11-2022 10:42 PM by pier4r.)
Post: #180
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RE: Collection of HHC programming contests and other useful documents
(06-04-2022 11:31 AM)mfleming Wrote: There are indeed laws against private corporate monopolies. However local governments can issue exclusive charters with negotiated tax provisions for revenue purposes under the theory that the service is a "public utility." The city argues that the public benefits from a uniform regulated service, but the reality is that the city pockets a new source of revenue that the public pays indirectly, and the provider has no motive to improve its service since it has a legally enforced captive market. Thank you for the explanation. Yes I agree on the lovely. Quote:The most frustrating thing is if I lived 50-100 meters in any direction, I would be able to get full gigabit for $70/month Oh my I am sorry. That would be really damning. --- anyway my current attempt with the torrent client seems working. I am adding one torrent at time (all allowed things, like termux repositories, systemrescuecd, HP community torrents ) to see whether it is stable, it will take some time. Wikis are great, Contribute :) |
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