smallest |cos(x)| ?
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10-07-2021, 12:14 PM
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smallest |cos(x)| ?
Last month, I had proposed a better complex tan(z) for Free42
We considered HP71B math-rom implementation. Quote:tan((x,y)) = ( sin(x)*cos(x)/d , sinh(y)*cosh(y)/d ) Does d ever goes to zero ? What is smallest cos(x)^2 ? (numerically) To make cos(x)^2 small, x must be close to (2k+1) * pi/2 This is Python script for searching smallest |cos(x)|, for IEEE double Code: from gmpy2 import * Looping (2k+1)*pi/2, for k = 1 to 1000000 step 2, k = 29 give tiniest |cos(x)| >>> eps(const_pi()/2 * 29) (mpfr('45.553093477052002'), mpfr('-6.1898063658835771e-19')) Others had search for this too. From Accurate trigonometric functions for large arguments >>> eps(mpfr('0x1.6ac5b262ca1ffp+849')) (mpfr('5.3193726483265414e+255'), mpfr('-4.6871659242546277e-19')) --- How to setup a Free42 program to search for this ? |
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10-07-2021, 03:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2021 06:57 AM by Werner.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
Quick hack (corrected):
Code: 00 { 145-Byte Prgm } Of course, MANT has been coded long ago, thanks to Dieter: Code: 00 { 25-Byte Prgm } Then, the loop, for k=1..10000: Code: 00 { 84-Byte Prgm } Which yields the smallest value for k=953, being 8.2E-35, for x=2995.508595197867852874130465957006 If I haven't made an error, that is ;-) Cheers, Werner 41CV†,42S,48GX,49G,DM42,DM41X,17BII,15CE,DM15L,12C,16CE |
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10-07-2021, 06:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2021 10:10 PM by Albert Chan.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
Thanks, Werner !
I found another approach. Instead of search min(|cos(x)|), I search min(|x - round(x,34)|), where x = (2k+1)*pi/2 = (k+0.5)*pi Searching k all the way to 100 million, we found a winner: x = 82,425,623.5 pi This required arbitrary precision package, with more digits of pi We use 100 digits of pi, search 1 million of k at a time. The code is a 1 liner eps.bat Wrote:@gawk "BEGIN{n=1e6; while(n--) print}" | rpn =100 pi sp %1 1e6x .5+ x s d =34 - abs [ rp r + s d = - abs $s k1 rpn is a sample program, for MAPM. (+ - * are exact, rounding must be called explicitly) It is not programmable, thus the need for gawk to produce 1 million blank lines. =100 pi sp # p = 100-digits-of-pi %1 1e6x .5+ x s # start = (%1*1e6 + 0.5) * p d =34 - abs # eps1 = abs(start - round(start,34)) [ # start a pipe, for each line of input, perform below commands rp r + s # start += p d = - abs # eps2 = abs(start - round(start,34)) $s k1 # sort (eps1, eps2) in ascending order, then drop the big one c:\> eps 0 8.200102230416340029960966876550294E-35 c:\> eps 82 1.532138639232766081410107492878833E-35 Then, locate x within the million k, and confirm: c:\> rpn =100 pi 953.5x ?68 d =-34 ? 2995.5085951978678528741304659570060000820010223041634002996096687655 2995.508595197867852874130465957006 - abs ?34 8.200102230416340029960966876550294E-35 pi 82425623.5x ?68 d =-34 ? 2.5894773325515822091636756232496249999999998467861360767233918589893E+8 2.589477332551582209163675623249625E+8 - abs ?34 1.532138639232766081410107492878833E-35 |cos(x)| = sin(ε) = ε - ε^3/3! + ... ≈ ε Free42 Decimal: 2995.508595197867852874130465957006 COS → -8.200102230416340029960966876550293e-35 258947733.2551582209163675623249625 COS → 1.532138639232766081410107492878833e-35 Intel Decimal128 angle reduction code is very good |
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10-08-2021, 07:02 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2021 12:39 PM by Werner.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
Running my programs to 100 million would take about 45 minutes ;-)
BTW corrected an error in EPS - it will now find that x = 82,425,623.5 pi. A bit counterintuitive that the smallest COS happens for such a large argument value; I thought it would lose about 8 digits of precision after the argument reduction. In fact, how do you know there isn't a larger value that has an even smaller ε? Cheers, Werner 41CV†,42S,48GX,49G,DM42,DM41X,17BII,15CE,DM15L,12C,16CE |
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10-08-2021, 08:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2021 08:26 AM by EdS2.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
What an excellent investigation!
Does this approach to tan(z) work out as suitably accurate in this case, when the divisor is so small? (Hoping the question makes sense!) |
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10-08-2021, 02:16 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
While I've been able to speed it up a bit, a thought occurred to me:
instead of doing (k+0.5)*pi, which has 2 rounding errors (one for pi, one for *), do: ->RAD(180*k + 90), which has only one, and thus would not need to examine the next numbers before or after. Depends how ->RAD is implemented of course. Cheers, Werner 41CV†,42S,48GX,49G,DM42,DM41X,17BII,15CE,DM15L,12C,16CE |
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10-08-2021, 07:54 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-08-2021 02:16 PM)Werner Wrote: instead of doing (k+0.5)*pi, which has 2 rounding errors (one for pi, one for *), do: "Bad" PI does not matter. (Besides, ->RAD might use the same PI) Consider 34th digit of stored PI = 3, but should be 2.884... x = (k+0.5)*PI rel_error(x) = rel_error(PI) ≈ (0.116 ULP) / (PI*10^33 ULP) ≈ 3.686E-35 If x has |cos(x)| minimized, x scaled to 34 digits, is very close to integer. Say, combined relative error = 3.7E-35 (as long as error < 5E-35, we are safe) ulp_error(x) < 10^34 ULP * 3.7E-35 = 0.37 ULP If we assume multiply has correct rounding, 0.37 ULP will have removed. Searching for min(|cos(x)|, my OP eps() code can be replaced with plain cos(x) |
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10-08-2021, 08:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2021 11:36 AM by Albert Chan.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-08-2021 07:02 AM)Werner Wrote: A bit counterintuitive that the smallest COS happens for such a large argument value; This give me an idea ! For IP(x) of 9 digits, calculate (pi/2*10^(34-9)), then throwaway rounded integer part Absolute of fractional part is how close expression to integer. No fractional part implied x - rounded(x,34) = 0 c:\> spigot -d15 -C abs(frac(pi/2*1e25+.5)-.5) 0/1 1/11 1/12 25/299 26/311 207/2476 233/2787 440/5263 673/8050 9189/109913 28240/337789 65669/785491 1472958/17618591 1538627/18404082 13781974/164851247 539035613/6447602715 x = (2k+1) * pi/2 = [1e8, 1e9) (2k+1) = (2/pi) * [1e8, 1e9) ≈ 0.6366197724 * [1e8, 1e9) From the convergents, 2k+1 = 164851247 satisfied. 3*(2k+1) = 494553741 also valid, but produced error of 3ε 82425623.5 PI * COS → 1.532138639232766081410107492878833e-35 247276870.5 PI * COS → -4.596415917698298244230322478636498e-35 Best semi-convergent is not as good: 2k+1 = 18404082 + 164851247*3 = 512957823 256478911.5 PI * COS → -5.589328359211609676578079200248261e-34 |
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10-09-2021, 01:15 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-08-2021 07:02 AM)Werner Wrote: Running my programs to 100 million would take about 45 minutes ;-) There should be infinitely many such values for x producing a smaller ε, shouldn't there? — Ian Abbott |
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10-09-2021, 02:09 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-09-2021 01:15 PM)ijabbott Wrote: There should be infinitely many such values for x producing a smaller ε, shouldn't there? The question is not if there are infinite smaller ε's, but whether ε^2 will underflow. Going from IP(x) of 9 diigits to 10, it is 10 times harder to get smaller ε. On the other hand, we have 10 times many more candidates to try. Both effect tends to cancel out, giving min(ε) not much smaller than machine epsilon. (this is a conjecture, but experiments tends to support it ...) (10-07-2021 06:40 PM)Albert Chan Wrote: Free42 Decimal: Using convergents / semi-convergents idea, for x < 1E50, these two have smaller ε: 9.510911580848780648392560778912209e40 COS → -1.328353856527533918552271223903534e-35 9.341730789500356812974471132146251e46 COS → -1.028415848209791685669808767152452e-35 To show how hard to get similar sized ε, this is true x, before rounded. 30274171828040719778093696476072003369775.5 * pi = 95109115808487806483925607789122090000000.000000000000000000000000000000000013283538... 29735652643654715492245370225672550765119900844.5 * pi = 93417307895003568129744711321462509999999999999.999999999999999999999999999999999989... |
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10-09-2021, 05:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-24-2021 12:49 PM by Albert Chan.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-09-2021 02:09 PM)Albert Chan Wrote: Both effect tends to cancel out, giving min(ε) not much smaller than machine epsilon. Perhaps Loch's theorem explain this. Quote:this can be interpreted as saying that each additional term in the continued fraction representation of a "typical" real number increases the accuracy of the representation by approximately one decimal place. When I did the convergents, steps required to get q = 2k+1 is roughly the same. If valid 2k+1 is big, convergents also start with big denominator. Relative error of final convergent tends towards the same ballpark. Example, IP(x) of 47 digits. Convergents of y = (pi/2) / 10^(47 - 34): 0/1 1/6366197723675 1/6366197723676 5/31830988618379 ... 933595789363114285779172744945397/5943455389076782359664376669525821535544153034 9341730789500356812974471132146251/59471305287309430984490740451345101530239801689 y = 1.570796326794896619231321691639751 ... * 10^-13 p = 9341730789500356812974471132146251 q = 59471305287309430984490740451345101530239801689 x = p * 10^13 ≈ 9.341730789500356812974471132146251e46 ε = abs(q*y - p) * 10^13 ≈ 1.028415848209791685669808767152452e-35 Update: Brute force proof, for Free42-Decimal, |cos(x)| > 10^-37 see https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-17...#pid153539 |
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10-10-2021, 01:36 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
Trivia: 2 convergents cannot have both even denominator (or both even numerator)
Code: def genConvergents(coefs): From the loops, assume d0 is odd, d1 is even (same reasoning for numerator) d1 ← d0 + coef*d1 = odd + even = odd With this trivia, our search for "best" denominator = 2k+1 guaranteed exist. |
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10-11-2021, 01:16 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-08-2021 07:54 PM)Albert Chan Wrote:(10-08-2021 02:16 PM)Werner Wrote: instead of doing (k+0.5)*pi, which has 2 rounding errors (one for pi, one for *), do: Somehow, this is not true.. the division by 2 (or mult. by 0.5 ..) may introduce an error of one ULP, due to unbiased rounding, as is the case for k=0. For the following values of k , (k+0.5)*pi is not the same as k*180+90 ->RAD, and the latter is correct: k=0, 2, 8, 15, 18, 25, .. consequently, (k+0.5)*pi does not yield the lowest |cos(x)|, but the ->RAD version does. Cheers, Werner 41CV†,42S,48GX,49G,DM42,DM41X,17BII,15CE,DM15L,12C,16CE |
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10-11-2021, 04:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2021 12:52 AM by Albert Chan.)
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
(10-11-2021 01:16 PM)Werner Wrote: For the following values of k , (k+0.5)*pi is not the same as k*180+90 ->RAD, and the latter is correct: Assuming we already tried k=0,1,2 (i.e, IP(x) of single digit), difference does not matter. We are now searching for exact(x) *close* to round(x,34). For this, only error of concern is inaccuracy of PI, (rel_err < 0.37 ULP) (Here, ULP ≡ 1E-34) If |cos(x)| is minimized, both ways of calculating x will match. If they are different, it is guaranteed |cos(x)| is not minimized. Example, for IP(x) of 2 digits: c:\> spigot -d3 -C "abs(pi/2*1e32 rem 1)" 0/1 1/6 1/7 15/104 7 2 / PI * → 10.99557428756427633461925184147826 7 90 * ->RAD → 10.99557428756427633461925184147826 COS → -9.469009289781287037341230607307734e-35 --- From Free42 core_helpers.cc, deg_to_rad(x) = x / (180 / PI) 180/pi = 57.29577951308232087679815481410517 0332 ... Rounded to 34 digits, this has relerr ≈ 0.0332 / 0.573 ≈ 0.058 ULP This is much more accurate than stored PI (relerr ≈ 0.369 ULP) If it had used flipped constant: pi/180 = 0.01745329251994329576923690768488612 7134 ... relerr ≈ (1-0.7134) / 0.1745 ≈ 1.64 ULP ... very bad Comment: Here, relerr calculations ignored sign, but sign may be important. I use this convention for sign of error: exact = approx + error PI is over-estimated, relerr(PI) = −0.369 ULP 180/PI under-estimated, relerr(180/PI) = +0.058 ULP But, ->RAD() use division of constant, we subtract relerr instead of add. Or, we can think of multiply by inverse of constant, with relerr of −0.058 ULP Since both formula have relerr of same sign, ->RAD() always better. |
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10-11-2021, 10:05 PM
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RE: smallest |cos(x)| ?
Just for fun, this formula is more accurate than ->RAD()
(k+0.5)*PI ⇒ (k+0.5)*29/(29/PI) 29/pi = 9.230986699329929474595258275605832 997998659 ... Rounded to 34-dgits, relerr ≈ (1-0.99800)/0.92310 < 0.00217 ULP --- With flipped constant, this is even better. (k+0.5)*PI ⇒ (k+0.5)*399*(PI/399) pi/399 = 0.007873665798470659745520409481903516 000494158 ... Rounded to 34-dgits, relerr ≈ 0.0004941/0.7874 < 0.00063 ULP |
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