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Klaus Overhage · 05-04-2023, 11:00 AM

From the above diskette I can only read the directory (see below) but none of the files. In my HP Portable PLus Lotus 1-2-3 Release 1A is installed as ROM.

On this page of the HP Computer Museum
http://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?swc=11
there are two times Lotus 1-2-3 Utilities for the HP 110 as 2) and as 4)
And there is "Lotus 1-2-3 Utilities for Portable Plus" but for release 2.01.

Does anyone have the disk pictured above or the files from it and could give them to me?

Code:

BLOCK1   FON         3.597  11.04.84   1:23 BLOCK1.FON

BLOCK2   FON         6.593  11.04.84   1:23 BLOCK2.FON

DBFWKS   EXE        16.000  11.04.84   1:23 DBFWKS.EXE

DIFWKS   EXE        18.304  11.04.84   1:23 DIFWKS.EXE

GD       DRV         2.150  27.03.85  17:08 GD.DRV

GRAPH    CNF           384  10.04.85  12:08 GRAPH.CNF

GRAPH    HLP        19.316  27.03.85  18:32 GRAPH.HLP

GRAPH    EXE        62.720  10.04.85  12:55 GRAPH.EXE

ITALIC1  FON         6.507  11.04.84   1:23 ITALIC1.FON

ITALIC2  FON         9.076  11.04.84   1:23 ITALIC2.FON

KB       DRV           949  04.04.85  13:42 KB.DRV

LESNA_1  WKS         2.944  11.04.84   1:23 LESNA_1.WKS

LESNA_2  WKS         1.792  11.04.84   1:23 LESNA_2.WKS

LESNB_1  WKS         2.816  11.04.84   1:23 LESNB_1.WKS

LESNC_1  WKS         3.072  11.04.84   1:23 LESNC_1.WKS

LESND_1  WKS         2.560  11.04.84   1:23 LESND_1.WKS

LESNE_1  WKS         4.224  11.04.84   1:23 LESNE_1.WKS

LESNF_1  WKS         4.224  11.04.84   1:23 LESNF_1.WKS

LESNF_2  WKS         3.456  11.04.84   1:23 LESNF_2.WKS

LOTUS    DLB        40.923  16.04.85  15:56 LOTUS.DLB

PAM      MNU            55  14.03.85  16:43 PAM.MNU

PR       DRV           608  27.03.85  17:10 PR.DRV

ROMAN1   FON         4.744  11.04.84   1:23 ROMAN1.FON

ROMAN2   FON         9.117  11.04.84   1:23 ROMAN2.FON

SCRIPT1  FON         5.831  11.04.84   1:23 SCRIPT1.FON

SCRIPT2  FON         7.726  11.04.84   1:23 SCRIPT2.FON

TD       DRV         5.032  27.03.85  17:12 TD.DRV

TRANSLAT COM        19.515  11.04.84   1:23 TRANSLAT.COM

TUT0     TUT           483  12.04.85  10:27 TUT0.TUT

TUTA     TUT        32.915  12.04.85  10:41 TUTA.TUT

TUTB     TUT        19.445  12.04.85  10:43 TUTB.TUT

TUTC     TUT        14.695  12.04.85  10:45 TUTC.TUT

TUTD     TUT        24.557  12.04.85  10:48 TUTD.TUT

TUTE     TUT        25.219  12.04.85  10:52 TUTE.TUT

TUTF     TUT        21.147  12.04.85  10:55 TUTF.TUT

TUTOR    EXE           586  18.04.85  14:18 TUTOR.EXE

TUTOR    CNF           256  02.01.80   4:41 TUTOR.CNF

TUTOR    HLP         4.738  22.03.85  15:54 TUTOR.HLP

VCWKS    EXE        20.224  11.04.84   1:23 VCWKS.EXE

WKSDBF   EXE        16.128  11.04.84   1:23 WKSDBF.EXE

WKSDIF   EXE        14.336  11.04.84   1:23 WKSDIF.EXE

        41 Datei(en)               458.964 Bytes

Martin Hepperle · (This post was last modified: 05-05-2023 06:19 PM by Martin Hepperle.)

Hello Klaus,

attached is the contents of the disks I had created for my HP-110s.
The source has been the TD0 images from HP-Museum archive.

One could probably also replace files from generic MS-DOS versions of Lotus 1-2-3 for some of the files.

Good luck,
Martin

**rprosperi** · 05-05-2023, 09:37 PM

(05-05-2023 05:46 PM)Martin Hepperle Wrote: Hello Klaus,

attached is the contents of the disks I had created for my HP-110s.
The source has been the TD0 images from HP-Museum archive.

One could probably also replace files from generic MS-DOS versions of Lotus 1-2-3 for some of the files.

Good luck,
Martin

Thanks for sharing these Martin.

The utilities files (and perhaps the others?) are for the Portable Plus, not the original 110. They may still work, I'm not sure, but just wanted to point this out.

If these don't work, holler, I know I have an original HP-110 Lotus diskette... somewhere...

Martin Hepperle · (This post was last modified: 05-06-2023 07:22 AM by Martin Hepperle.)

(05-05-2023 09:37 PM)rprosperi Wrote:
(05-05-2023 05:46 PM)Martin Hepperle Wrote: Hello Klaus,

attached is the contents of the disks I had created for my HP-110s.
The source has been the TD0 images from HP-Museum archive.

One could probably also replace files from generic MS-DOS versions of Lotus 1-2-3 for some of the files.

Good luck,
Martin

Thanks for sharing these Martin.

The utilities files (and perhaps the others?) are for the Portable Plus, not the original 110. They may still work, I'm not sure, but just wanted to point this out.

If these don't work, holler, I know I have an original HP-110 Lotus diskette... somewhere...

Bob,

if you have something like a 00090-12001 Utilities disk, it would be nice to have a copy of the files or a disk image.
This would also be interesting for the HP-Museum, even if they have transferred their hardware collection, my understanding is that they will maintain their web site.

Martin

Klaus Overhage · 05-06-2023, 04:15 PM

Hello Martin,
thank you for providing the zip files. Three others have already downloaded them before me, so there is a need for them.

The first archive "HP 110 - 00090" is the Lotus 1-2-3 Utilities for 110 and are probably not specifically intended for the Portable Plus. The two archives beginning with "HP 110 - 45539" contain utilities for Lotus 1-2-3 Rel 2.01 for the Portabele PLus as a look into the file HDR reveals. The archives look good in my opinion and the programs in them should work.

Encouraged by the fact that I can read the directory of the floppy disk I looked for a program that tries to read the data more than a few times. I tried it with VGA-COPY/386 on a Pentium 1 PC under Windows 98 and can report a small miracle: After unpacking vgacp625.zip I created a shortcut for vgacopy.exe, set the XMS memory to 1024k in the properties of the shortcut and started the program. In it I increased the retries to 99 and pressed Read. Then it happened: The disk was read track by track into RAM without even once faltering. Then another DD disk was inserted and Write was pressed. From the newly written disk all files could be copied to the hard disk without any problems. Below is the result, it's very fresh and I haven't tried the programs in it myself yet.
https://www.pcwelt.de/article/1143380/vga-copy-386.html

It remains exciting...

Klaus Overhage · 05-06-2023, 05:44 PM

I copy all files with the help of kermit to drive a: , the ramdisk of the portable plus. Then I start the tutor program and it show an Intro-screen. After pressing a key it beeps endless and show „invalid drive“. The reason is in the file tutor.cnf: With a Hex editor you can see c:\ in it. I change it into a:\ and the tutor works very well from the ramdisk! In graph.cnf it is already a:\

Martin Hepperle · (This post was last modified: 05-07-2023 12:21 PM by Martin Hepperle.)

Klaus,

excellent! So we now have both versions for 1A and 2.01.

Sometimes it is good to try different programs to read "difficult" disks.

I just checked my Portable 110 and it also has Lotus 1-2-3 version 1A.
I have not used my 110 for a long time since the Portable Plus (Lotus 2.01) is more convenient with more RAM and its larger screen (and even more in its green/yellow screen version).

The attached document compares the contents of the Lostus 1-2-3 Utilities disks for the HP 110 and the HP Portable Plus.

Martin