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Matt Agajanian · 12-20-2024, 10:15 PM

Hi all.

Thanks for the 33S/35S case suggestion. Excellent item.

Now I need a 21S case option. I could just buy another Pioneer model that comes with a case. If so, I’d end up with another calc without a case since I’d use the model’s case with my 21S. So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Maximilian Hohmann · 12-20-2024, 10:38 PM

Hello!

(12-20-2024 10:15 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

A sewing machine is your friend :-) No kidding, some years ago I bought a sturdy sewing machine on eBay for approximately 100 Euros that is strong enough to work with leather. And a bag of leather residues from an upholsterer (they are sold by weight). After making three or four cases, it has paid for itself. They are really simple to sew, only straight seams, even if you add "fancy" stuff like magnetic closures. A nice change from soldering all the time :-)

Regards
Max

**rprosperi** · 12-21-2024, 02:03 AM

(12-20-2024 10:15 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: Now I need a 21S case option. I could just buy another Pioneer model that comes with a case. If so, I’d end up with another calc without a case since I’d use the model’s case with my 21S. So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

One option is to buy an original 10B, in any condition but with a nice case; often this is cheaper than buying just a Pioneer case; if you are patient and check eBay often, you can probably buy one for $10-15 dollars shipped.

Then use the case for the 21S and use the 10B as a doorstop, or to level a bookcase, or some other useful task around the house. The case justifies the purchase so repurposing the 10B to some non-calculating task is fine.

Matt Agajanian · (This post was last modified: 12-21-2024 03:07 AM by Matt Agajanian.)

(12-21-2024 02:03 AM)rprosperi Wrote:
(12-20-2024 10:15 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: Now I need a 21S case option. I could just buy another Pioneer model that comes with a case. If so, I’d end up with another calc without a case since I’d use the model’s case with my 21S. So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

One option is to buy an original 10B, in any condition but with a nice case; often this is cheaper than buying just a Pioneer case; if you are patient and check eBay often, you can probably buy one for $10-15 dollars shipped.

Then use the case for the 21S and use the 10B as a doorstop, or to level a bookcase, or some other useful task around the house. The case justifies the purchase so repurposing the 10B to some non-calculating task is fine.

After seeing that the 10B and its variants are at giveaway/garage sale prices, that seems a reasonable plan.

I jumped at a grand offer. I looked the candidates over and I found a 10b II+ with a case for $11. Cool!

Raymond Del Tondo · 12-21-2024, 08:54 AM

(12-21-2024 02:54 AM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: I looked the candidates over and I found a 10b II+ with a case for $11. Cool!

A 10b II+ is not a Pioneer, but if the slip case fits;-)

vaklaff · 12-21-2024, 09:18 AM

(12-20-2024 10:38 PM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote: A sewing machine is your friend :-) No kidding, some years ago I bought a sturdy sewing machine on eBay for approximately 100 Euros that is strong enough to work with leather. And a bag of leather residues from an upholsterer (they are sold by weight). After making three or four cases, it has paid for itself. They are really simple to sew, only straight seams, even if you add "fancy" stuff like magnetic closures. A nice change from soldering all the time :-)

Do you swear when sewing? My wife does that profoundly and her mother, otherwise a very refined lady, did as well. Those diabolic machines must steal souls or something...

nickapos · 12-21-2024, 09:31 AM

(12-20-2024 10:38 PM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote: Hello!

(12-20-2024 10:15 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

A sewing machine is your friend :-) No kidding, some years ago I bought a sturdy sewing machine on eBay for approximately 100 Euros that is strong enough to work with leather. And a bag of leather residues from an upholsterer (they are sold by weight). After making three or four cases, it has paid for itself. They are really simple to sew, only straight seams, even if you add "fancy" stuff like magnetic closures. A nice change from soldering all the time :-)

Regards
Max

Hi Max, I have never sewed leather before. I have several sewing machines that I used for clothes alterations and whatever else is needed such as upholstery covers etc. Would it be possible to share photos of one of your cases?

Thank you very much

nickapos · (This post was last modified: 12-21-2024 09:33 AM by nickapos.)

(12-21-2024 09:18 AM)vaklaff Wrote:
(12-20-2024 10:38 PM)Maximilian Hohmann Wrote: A sewing machine is your friend :-) No kidding, some years ago I bought a sturdy sewing machine on eBay for approximately 100 Euros that is strong enough to work with leather. And a bag of leather residues from an upholsterer (they are sold by weight). After making three or four cases, it has paid for itself. They are really simple to sew, only straight seams, even if you add "fancy" stuff like magnetic closures. A nice change from soldering all the time :-)

Do you swear when sewing? My wife does that profoundly and her mother, otherwise a very refined lady, did as well. Those diabolic machines must steal souls or something...

It's part of the premium experience Big Grin

Pierre · 12-21-2024, 12:55 PM

(12-21-2024 02:03 AM)rprosperi Wrote:
(12-20-2024 10:15 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: Now I need a 21S case option. I could just buy another Pioneer model that comes with a case. If so, I’d end up with another calc without a case since I’d use the model’s case with my 21S. So, any suggestions for a Pioneer case would be appreciated.

One option is to buy an original 10B, in any condition but with a nice case; often this is cheaper than buying just a Pioneer case; if you are patient and check eBay often, you can probably buy one for $10-15 dollars shipped.

Then use the case for the 21S and use the 10B as a doorstop, or to level a bookcase, or some other useful task around the house. The case justifies the purchase so repurposing the 10B to some non-calculating task is fine.

Bob's idea is excellent ! (normal: I had the same several times...)

but... now I have several HP-10Bs that work (even one with the manual).
I bought them all for less than 10€ while the least Pioneer case was offered (alone) at 30€ minimum.
Now my HP-10Bs are all now without cases and in addition they are useless to me.
Unfortunately I have no rickety bookcase and I have sliding doors... so the HP-10Bs sleep at the back of a closet.

otherwise www.thecalculatorstore.com (Spain) offers a true leather case for Pioneer calculators but at €17.36 + VAT + delivery...

AnnoyedOne · 12-21-2024, 01:26 PM

If you want genuine HP I'd read this thread.

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-22282.html

A1

Matt Agajanian · 12-21-2024, 09:23 PM

(12-21-2024 08:54 AM)Raymond Del Tondo Wrote:
(12-21-2024 02:54 AM)Matt Agajanian Wrote: I looked the candidates over and I found a 10b II+ with a case for $11. Cool!
A 10b II+ is not a Pioneer, but if the slip case fits;-)

What lineage is the 10b II+?

Steve Simpkin · 12-21-2024, 09:33 PM

(12-21-2024 09:23 PM)Matt Agajanian Wrote:
(12-21-2024 08:54 AM)Raymond Del Tondo Wrote: A 10b II+ is not a Pioneer, but if the slip case fits;-)

What lineage is the 10b II+?

For reference, the Calculator Culture YouTube channel has a great comparison video of the HP-10B, HP-10BII and HP 10bii models:
HP 10BII+ Financial Calculator Review

From the HP-19B wikipedia page, it appears they all use different processors!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP-10B