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Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
03-11-2023, 01:49 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2023 01:50 PM by Gil.)
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Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
Suppose that I have a Real Matrix A
[[11 0]
[0 22]].

I want to substitute in a program its
real number 22 by real 220.

Then {2 2} 220 PUT does the job
and I get the matrix B1
[[11 0]
[0 220]].

Suppose instead that I want to substitute
the same real number 22 in matrix A
by the complex number (220,1).
Then {2 2} (220, 1) PUT does not do the job.
Is it normal?

To have the job done, I have apparently
a) to test that number
b) then, if it is complex,
multiply previously A by the complex number (1 0);
then only I can write {2 2} (220, 1) PUT
to get the wished matrix B2:
[[(11, 0) (0,0)]
[(0,0) (22, 1)]].

Is there a simpler way to get the job done?
How do I possibly get the "nicer/simpler" looking matrix B'2:
[11 0]
[0 (220, 1)]] (not having the "0-imaginary" partto appear)?

Note
From complex matrix B2
I can get back A simply by:
[[(11, 0) (0,0)]
[(0,0) (22, 1)]]
{2 2 } 22 PUT.

Thanks for your insight.

Gil
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03-11-2023, 02:21 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2023 02:22 PM by Marco Polo.)
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
(03-11-2023 01:49 PM)Gil Wrote:  Is it normal?
i don't know if it is normal, but it works if you input the complex number in the form 'a+b*i', at least on my 50g and my flags setting
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03-11-2023, 04:31 PM
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
Nice solution.

But before getting my complex number to be replaced in your suggested form,
I have a negative number c, of which I take the nth root.

And c n 1/x ^ gives a z of a form (a,b), not directly 'a+bi'.

I can't find (any more?) a very simple way (flag setting or command)
to transform my (a, b) into your 'a+bi'
or to get directly, from c n 1/x ^, the requested form 'a+bi'.
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03-11-2023, 06:20 PM
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
There are three types of arrays used by the HP 49 and 50-

Type 3: real array
Type 4: complex array
Type 29: symbolic array.

Real arrays must contain only real (floating-point) numbers.
Complex arrays must contain only complex (floating-point) numbers, e.g. (3., 4.).
Therefore, you cannot insert a complex number into a real array. Symbolic arrays may contain any type of number as well as algebraics, but matrix operations are generally slower with symbolic arrays.

If you are going to want to insert complex numbers into an array, you should start out with a complex array. You can turn a real array into a complex array with imaginary parts = 0 by
DUP SIZE 0 CON R\->C.
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03-11-2023, 08:03 PM
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
"If you are going to want to insert complex numbers into an array, you should start out with a complex array. You can turn a real array into a complex array with imaginary parts = 0 by
DUP SIZE 0 CON R\->C."

Easier
Real Matrix × (1, 0).

How would you call such a Matrix
with complex and real numbers and no apparent algebraic expression
[[ (5.,6.) (5.,6.) ]
[ (7.,9.) 3 ]] ?
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03-11-2023, 10:39 PM
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
(03-11-2023 08:03 PM)Gil Wrote:  How would you call such a Matrix
with complex and real numbers and no apparent algebraic expression
[[ (5.,6.) (5.,6.) ]
[ (7.,9.) 3 ]] ?

It's still a symbolic matrix. If you are in Exact mode and you create a new matrix with exact integers (no decimal points), the result will be a symbolic matrix. Also if you convert a list of lists to a matrix with AXL, it will be a symbolic matrix, even if the list elements are real or complex numbers. Symbolic matrices can be converted into real (or complex) matrices by the command AXM.
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03-12-2023, 12:16 AM
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RE: Hp50 Real Matrix does not allow subst aij real by a'ij complex
I did not know about all those distinctions — and just discovered the existence of AXL & AXM.

Thanks for sharing and explaining.

Regards,
Gil
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