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10-04-2018, 07:58 PM (This post was last modified: 10-04-2018 08:03 PM by Albert Chan.)
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Just downloaded XCas 1.4.9-57 (win32) today.
I want to see if XCas can handle the tough proof: http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-112...#pid102245
Prove point D, C, E lies on a straight line (using distance, not slope)

pointE := head(solve([y=ae*x, y=be*(x-1)], [x, y])) //==> [-be/(ae-be), -ae*be/(ae-be)]
pointD := simplify(subst(pointE, [ae=-1/ae, be=-1/be])) //==> [-ae/(ae-be), -1/(ae-be)]
pointC := [k, 1]
dist(x) := sqrt(dot(x, x))

soln := head(solve(dist(pointD - pointC) + dist(pointE - pointC) = dist(pointD - pointE), k))

XCas was unable to solve for k, the mess is too much, *STOP* after 5 minutes ...

To help XCas a bit, scale the distance by abs(ae - be):
(ae, be was slope of line AE, BE. Since A != B, scaling factor > 0)

dist(x) := sqrt(dot(x, x) * (ae - be)^2) // scaled distance

With scaled distance, solving take 2 seconds: Smile

soln = (-ae^2 * be - ae^2 + be^2 - be) / (ae * be^2 - ae^2 * be + ae - be)

Removing the square terms, we get:

simplify(subst(soln, [ae^2=1-2*k*ae, be^2=1-2*(k-1)*be])) //==> k

For any value of k, DCE lies on a straight line, thus DCE is always straight.
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Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-14-2018, 01:45 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-14-2018, 06:04 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-14-2018, 06:58 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-14-2018, 08:35 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 12:39 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Voldemar - 08-15-2018, 06:38 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 11:14 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Voldemar - 08-15-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Voldemar - 08-15-2018, 01:16 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 07:57 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-15-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - jwhsu - 08-16-2018, 12:30 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 02:55 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-16-2018, 04:04 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Paul Dale - 08-17-2018, 06:29 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - brickviking - 08-21-2018, 12:01 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-15-2018, 09:46 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-15-2018, 11:02 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Thomas Puettmann - 08-16-2018, 08:26 AM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 08-16-2018, 06:46 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 09-03-2018, 01:59 PM
RE: Geometry Stumper - Albert Chan - 10-04-2018 07:58 PM
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