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2010 Ti Nspire Faster than G2 HP Prime
09-18-2022, 07:50 AM
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RE: 2010 Ti Nspire Faster than G2 HP Prime
Everybody can look at the source code of giac and see what happens here, let me explain how. Untar the source code (https://www-fourier.univ-grenoble-alpes....stable.tgz), go to the src directory and run
Code:
grep at_expand *.cc
(all user commands have a corresponding at_-prefixed object defined in the C++ source).
There are a few lines returned, the interesting one is
Code:
lin.cc:  define_unary_function_ptr( at_expand ,alias_at_expand ,&__expand);
Therefore expand source code is located in lin.cc. Open lin.cc with your favorite text editor, and search at_expand, you'll see just above expand source code (most user commands have an equivalent C++ code with the same prototype and either the same name or the same name prefixed with _):
Code:

  gen expand(const gen & e,GIAC_CONTEXT){
    if (is_equal(e))
      return apply_to_equal(e,expand,contextptr);
    if (e.type==_SYMB && (e._SYMBptr->sommet==at_and || e._SYMBptr->sommet==at_ou)){
      ...
    }
   vector<const unary_function_ptr *> v;
    vector< gen_op_context > w;
    v.push_back(at_prod);
    v.push_back(at_pow);
    v.push_back(at_neg);
    w.push_back(&prod_expand);
    w.push_back(&expand_pow_expand);
    w.push_back(&expand_neg_expand);
    return _simplifier(subst(e,v,w,false,contextptr),contextptr);
  }
It means that expand is done by substitution of rational operators by expanding code for each operator. Then a quick look at prod_expand and expand_pow_expand will show you that expand is implemented by applying rules only (e.g. distribution rule of * vs +/-), it does not take advantage of the fact that the input is a univariate polynomial while the TI obviously does.
You can also see how the expansion is done step by step on this example, run from the giac directory
Code:
export CXXFLAGS=-g &&  ./configure && cd src && make
then open gdb on .libs/icas (icas is the name of the giac shell executable), set a breakpoint at giac::expand_pow_expand, and run from gdb console:
Code:
r 'expand((x^2+7x+4)^5)'

Now the conclusion is that expand on the Prime is *not* the equivalent of expand on the TI Nspire, in fact it should be compared to normal/simplify on the Prime, or more precisely to partfrac on the Prime (the expand commandname on the Nspire is a bit misleading, it does not only expand, but also does partial fraction expansion).
The Prime CAS has more options/commands than the TI Nspire CAS, which means that before drawing conclusions on a benchmark, one should dig a little bit. Since this will probably not happen, I have now modified giac source code accordingly, see:
https://github.com/geogebra/giac/commits/master
Unfortunately, I have no idea when the change will be released in a public Prime firmware...
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