Improper (difficult) integrals at SwissMicros Calculator Forum
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11-26-2023, 12:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-27-2023 07:59 AM by peacecalc.)
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RE: Improper (difficult) integrals at SwissMicros Calculator Forum
Hello Valentin,
thank you very much for your quick and comprehensive answer. I didn't expect this. I feel esteemed. off topic: I regret and feel sorry, that you had made bad experiences with some members of this forum. Using fora is a tricky thing. As a member in some other fora I saw that even one forum died because of a bad ping-pong post game between only few members. ontopic: About your question: I used the native programming language of the hp prime (PPL). Maybe I give the builtin Python a chance, but for getting a higher precision the number of calls have to raise with factor 10, that means, instead of 4, I have to wait 40 minutes. So Python has to be much more faster then PPL. I carried out the estimated Integral: \[ I = \int_{-1}^{1}\exp\left(x\cdot\left(\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)\right)dx = (\sqrt{5}-1)*\sinh\left(\frac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2}\right) \approx 2.9943\] thats not bad for such an easy estimation. Because there only a few valid digits, it is clear, that I haven't found a secrect relation, it is only a not bad guess. @Ajaja: Just carry out the integral \[ s = \int_{-1}^{1}\sqrt{\left(1+f'(x)^2\right)}dx = \int_{-1}^{1} \sqrt{\left(1+\left((1+e^{x+\frac{1}{3}} e^{e^{x+\frac{1}{3}}} e^{e^{e^{x+\frac{1}{3}}}}\cos\left(e^{e^{e^{x+\frac{1}{3}}}}\right)) e^{x+\sin\left(e^{e^{e^{x+\frac{1}{3}}}}\right)} \right)^2\right)}dx \] Maybe a substitution makes it easier..., but it looks ugly, very ugly... By the way, for writing down the integral in my poste, I used the command "latex" of hp prime. I try to make it smoother... \[ \int_{-1}^{1}\sqrt{1+f'(x)^2}dx = \int_{-1}^{1} \sqrt{1+\left(\left(1+ \exp\left(x+\frac{1}{3}\right) \exp\left(\exp\left(x+\frac{1}{3}\right)\right)\exp\left(\exp\left(\exp\left(x+ \frac{1}{3}\right)\right)\right) \cos\left(\exp\left(\exp\left(\exp\left(x+ \frac{1}{3}\right)\right)\right)\right) \right) \exp\left(x+\sin\left(\exp\left(\exp\left(\exp\left(x+\frac{1}{3} \right)\right)\right)\right)\right)\right)^2}dx \] However I do, the integral is still ugly. Editing was necessary because of false brackets setting and typo at estimated value. |
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