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HP 42s Value Display
10-25-2024, 07:57 PM (This post was last modified: 10-26-2024 01:13 AM by Albert Chan.)
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Kahan Wrote:After you've done it seven times, your telephone number changes. Do you feel that that's honest? Is this an honest ad?

I think TI's ad is honest, showing usefulness of exposed excess precision.

exp(ln(x) ± ε) = x * exp(±ε) ≈ x * (1±ε)

x is 10-digits telephone number --> ln(x) = ln(1e9 .. 1e10) ≈ 20.7 .. 23.0

HP with 10 digits precision, max(ε) = 50 ULP, where ULP = 1e-10

Example, in HP12C

9985550000
LN   --> 23.02440488
E^X --> 9985549951

Compare this to TI, e^ln(e^ln(e^ln(e^ln(e^ln(e^ln(e^ln(x))))))) only move at most 1 ULP!
(If it did move more than 1 ULP, Kahan would not have said 7 times)
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HP 42s Value Display - cylurian - 10-21-2024, 11:00 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - Steve Simpkin - 10-21-2024, 11:37 PM
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RE: HP 42s Value Display - Thomas Okken - 10-23-2024, 11:10 AM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - cylurian - 10-24-2024, 10:08 PM
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RE: HP 42s Value Display - AnnoyedOne - 10-25-2024, 06:54 AM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - dm319 - 10-25-2024, 10:51 AM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - Steve Simpkin - 10-25-2024, 11:45 AM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - dm319 - 10-25-2024, 12:31 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - AnnoyedOne - 10-25-2024, 12:56 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - Albert Chan - 10-25-2024 07:57 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - AnnoyedOne - 10-25-2024, 03:35 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - Jase - 10-25-2024, 05:57 PM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - cylurian - 10-27-2024, 06:24 AM
RE: HP 42s Value Display - Thomas Klemm - 10-27-2024, 09:51 AM
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