DM-15L Review
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11-09-2024, 04:41 PM
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DM-15L Review
This is a brief review of the DM-15L which I got last week.
Cost/shipping I bought this for one of my children who expressed an interest in having a 'weird' calculator. They are 10 years old and will start secondary school in the UK next Autumn 2025. This model was selected based on calculator exam requirements and the possibility of a two line display. I bought this from the SM Amazon store for £150. I did this deliberately to avoid having to figure out customs charges for the package. It took exactly 14 days which felt like a long time, but only because of anticipation, and doesn't compare to the length of time I have deliberated about it. Appearance This calculator feels very weighty, maybe the weightiest of all pocket calculators I have come across, apart from the DM42. The sand-blasted titanium rear plate has a rough feel and very industrial look. It is mated pretty perfectly onto the plastic top plate. There is a brushed steel face plate which looks good to me, but there is a very slight asymmetry in its positioning which will annoy a perfectionist. The key legends are very clear, especially the yellow, the blue depends on the lighting. Overall, the colours are quite earthy, and the weight gives it a slight bomb-proof feel. In fact it wouldn't look too out of place next to world war 2 field equipment in terms of colours. The hand-stiched leather pouch fits it perfectly (maybe too tightly but that will improve with time) and looks terrific. Keys The keys are well-formed. Others have mentioned the key presses are short travel, but it doesn't 'feel' short. If you are used to HP-65, it will feel short, if you are used to a Casio or Sharp scientific this has more travel. It is very tactile and the 'click' is muted. I switched it to 48Mhz mode fairly quickly which is meant to be better for key presses and calculates quicker. The most important thing for me is reliability of key presses, and it does very well here. Unfortunately I don't have a good collection of high-quality HP calculators to compare it against, but my second hand HP-12c platinum is especially bad in this regard. My rogue HP-12c is much better than the 12c platinum, but not quite as good as this. My DM42 is the king of reliable key presses and is a bit better. Compared to modern and old Sharps, Casios and Texas Instruments, this is better than any of them. By which I mean that often these other brands have a very flat feel to them, with very little tactility or travel. There is a very slight discrepancy between the tactile bump and the registration of the key press. This is familiar and expected to me given to my experience in mechanical clicky keyboards. It's normally not a problem as long as you develop a feel for how hard you are pressing the keys. Overall, I find the feel of the keys to be excellent. Display Is clear to me and similar to the best LCD screens out there. The DM42 with its high contrast memory display is better of course. The fonts frankly look terrible on the stock photos, but it looks good in real life. I don't know why this is. It is imminently usable and clear. Functionality As this was bought to be used in secondary school in the UK, this is the perspective I'm looking at this from. Firstly, it is RPN. That's a given in this forum of course, but the competition for this calculator mainly comes in the form of a Casio, Sharp or TI scientific non-graphing. I really wanted an RPN calculator for my kid to learn on as I genuinely think it is better for 'calculating' than algebraic. At the moment, for less than 1/10th the cost, I can get a Casio with a natural layout and which can calculate to greater accuracy. On the other hand with the algebraics you can end up at the mercy of wherever arguments are ongoing regarding order of operations, which is something you decide for yourself with RPN. Casio have opted for 'multiplication by juxtaposition' (a silly term for this IMO) as needing clarification with brackets. At the same time they are now treating scientific notation as not receiving any special precedence which means that 1÷5e2 is evaluated as 20 rather than 1/500th. Without this turning into an anti-algebraic rant, there are also issues that changing the format of the answer results in a re-calculation, which can be very confusing if you have chained a calculation using 'ANS' from previously and require it in a different format. RPN avoids all these pitfalls, but requires that you understand what you are doing fully, but really, if you are getting this calculator for school, it is because you have prioritised RPN over almost everything else. Despite being based on 43 year old technology, the DM-15L beats every other modern scientific calculator in complex number handling. The modern TI-30X pro mathprint and TI-36X pro which I believe are top of the range scientifics can not raise complex numbers to anything other than 1, 2 and 3. It seems to also have the largest matrix handling of any modern scientifics with up to 8x8 matrices. I'm impressed that the factorial works continuously and on negative numbers presumably using the gamma function. There is no fraction support. Statistics are limited to sum, mean, standard deviation and linear regression. This might be an issue in later A-level maths when calculators may be expected to calculate probability distributions and medians. It does have a numerical solver and integrator, which matches it with the top-of-the-range scientifics from the major brands. It is programmable, though this will be of little use for school as programs will need to be cleared pre exams. It will not attempt to show results as radicals or fractions of Pi as many Casios will do these days. On the other hand, even though this isn't a full CAS system, I think this is half-way cheating, and it also results in errors when the calculator gets it wrong. This isn't the only modern RPN calculator you can buy. There is also the HP-15CE which is the official modern re-incarnation of this device. This is very slightly less expensive here in the UK, but stock is running out rapidly. It is effectively the same calculator on different hardware, using a classic 7-segment display and angled HP buttons. I didn't consider the DM-42 or DM-32 as these are significantly more expensive and may run foul of rules around exam use. Overall Thoughts This is a very tidy and capable package and, in some ways, the ideal calculating machine. I am unsure whether this will work out for my sons education, and I'm documenting the experience here. The device is incredibly powerful in some specific areas, more so than any modern scientific calculator, which is a testament to the effort which went into its original design. In other ways it doesn't have functionality which some might expect of even cheap modern scientifics - fractions, radical and pi representations, advanced spreadsheets, tables, formulas and statistical calculations. However, I don't think these things necessarily help students to learn, if anything, it might be detrimental, and learning the principals of maths is more important. To this end, hopefully the DM-15L will be good, but we will have to see. |
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DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-09-2024 04:41 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-09-2024, 05:03 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Jase - 11-09-2024, 05:40 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-09-2024, 06:21 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Thomas Klemm - 11-09-2024, 06:51 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Maximilian Hohmann - 11-09-2024, 07:25 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Johnh - 11-09-2024, 10:21 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-10-2024, 11:01 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-10-2024, 01:41 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Maximilian Hohmann - 11-10-2024, 02:43 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-10-2024, 03:54 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Thomas Klemm - 11-10-2024, 11:39 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - jthole - 11-10-2024, 11:42 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-10-2024, 04:32 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Steve Simpkin - 11-11-2024, 02:14 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - n1msr - 11-10-2024, 04:55 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-10-2024, 09:52 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - carey - 11-10-2024, 11:57 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-11-2024, 04:25 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - carey - 11-11-2024, 10:31 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-12-2024, 01:21 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - carey - 11-12-2024, 02:35 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-12-2024, 03:44 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - carey - 11-12-2024, 05:08 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-12-2024, 05:54 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-11-2024, 09:24 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - Commie - 11-11-2024, 08:51 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Thomas Klemm - 11-11-2024, 05:38 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-11-2024, 08:57 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Johnh - 11-11-2024, 11:21 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-11-2024, 11:41 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-12-2024, 01:37 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-12-2024, 01:03 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - floppy - 11-12-2024, 07:29 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - jthole - 11-12-2024, 08:58 AM
RE: DM-15L Review - AnnoyedOne - 11-12-2024, 01:09 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - Eddie W. Shore - 11-12-2024, 01:54 PM
RE: DM-15L Review - dm319 - 11-12-2024, 09:48 PM
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