Introduction and Thankyou

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(07-19-2017 12:20 AM)Zac Bruce Wrote:  If I manage to get the 17bii+ approved for use at uni no doubt I'll pick one of those up but I love the form factor of the 12c so will most likely stick with learning how to get the most out of it.

There are 2 different 17bii+ models, the "Gold", a very cheap looking and feeling version which IMHO, sucks, and the "Silver" which is easily the nicest hardware HP still sells (Prime excluded).

But both models have a fatal flaw in the Solver when using the L() and G() advanced functions. If you won't use those the Silver is a great machine, also available quite inexpensively (I bought a like-new one for $22). But if you plan to learn and use the Solver (sounds like you will) then I would recommend you stay with the 17BII and avoid the 'plus' models.

(07-19-2017 12:20 AM)Zac Bruce Wrote:  The Swiss micros were something I had a look at, I'd be interested to hear from people who have experience with then firsthand as to how they feel compared to the HP, one of the things I love about the 12c is the hinged, clicky buttons. Also probably pick up one of those Victor models too.

I have not personally used the small models except briefly, so can't comment, but the full-size DMxxL models are excellent machines, with very definite "click" feel buttons. While not identical to the HP feel, it is just as distinct and satisfying (to me at least) though some folks have commented that one must press slightly harder than on an HP.