DM42 is now open-source!

[Manolo Sobrino]

(04-21-2018 09:20 PM)moonbeam Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:52 PM)Manolo Sobrino Wrote:  I don't think going over the same issues in this forum helps to solve this problem, which concerns nobody else but Thomas and SwissMicros. No news is good news, this is a technical hurdle (or a series of them) and possibly there are a few compromises that need to be discussed and agreed upon among all interested parties (you know, the actual interested parties) in order to keep this product alive.

These "same issues" are extant until such time as SwissMicros delivers what they promised. They concern not just Thomas and SwissMicros, but DM42 users in particular and the broader community in general. No news is definitely NOT good news; absent any news, attributing the delay on technical issue is speculative.

Of course it's speculative, yet it's the sort of speculation I do, which is you don't assume malice unless there's evidence of malice. It's a boring class of speculation, but I'm not an exciting person.

What I've learnt about GPL (and more) with all this is that there's something wrong with whatever that allows people that haven't written a single line of code to feel entitled to anything about that code. If SM can't pull this off -as you feel like they should- and they and Thomas strike a deal that is OK for them, it should be OK for everybody else. If that happens and you don't like your DM42 then... well, SM should issue an RMA for it and everybody's happy.

(04-21-2018 09:20 PM)moonbeam Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:52 PM)Manolo Sobrino Wrote:  But if you insist... well, I'd love to see your proof of concept on how to load executables in FreeRTOS, and maybe an offer to develop an alternative GPL USB stack for this board. That would be more interesting than another round of assumptions about what can/should be done, and it also might give some pause.

I don't recall using the words "loading an executable into FreeRTOS" (at least not up-thread), but FreeRTOS is a kernel with a documented API. A FreeRTOS executable would be an application written to that API, similar to applications written to other OS kernels. No proof of concept required on my part, sample projects can be found in the documentation and distribution.

The point of making assumptions is to understand what the holdup might be, to play with scenarios. If SwissMicros is in need of a GPL USB library, I have to respectfully decline to assist; I would find it an interesting project under different circumstances.

Yep, it's a kernel... statically linked to your application, unless you have the resources to make something like the Pebble. So you get a single blob with everything (and then the STM license kicks in), or lots of developers/time/money to achieve something really special, or you just have to start over with a different OS, which maybe means a proprietary one this time. But it never occurred to you that what you're asking for here to SwissMicros could mean "please kill this product or else".

Seriously guys, there are better things to do than stirring the pot, let them solve this. If Thomas is not happy with the outcome I'm sure he'll let us know in due time.