Puzzle for you
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08-17-2018, 03:59 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-17-2018 04:03 AM by Thomas Klemm.)
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RE: Puzzle for you
We can model the rope as a catenary:
\(y=a\cosh(\frac{x}{a})\) where \(a\) is a scaling factor. Then with \(h\) as the difference of the heights and \(s\) as half the length of the rope we get: \(h=a(\cosh(\frac{x}{a})-1)\) \(s=a\sinh(\frac{x}{a})\) With: \(u=\frac{x}{a}\) and \(v=\frac{h}{s}=\frac{a(\cosh(u)-1)}{a\sinh(u)}=\tanh(\frac{u}{2})\) Thus \(u=2\tanh^{-1}(v)=2\tanh^{-1}(\frac{h}{s})\) This allows us to calculate: \(a=\frac{s}{\sinh(u)}=\frac{s}{\sinh(2\tanh^{-1}(\frac{h}{s}))}=\frac{s^2-h^2}{2h}\) Now we plug both \(a\) and \(u\) in to calculate: \(\begin{align*} x=a\cdot u &=\frac{s^2-h^2}{2h}\cdot2\tanh^{-1}(\frac{h}{s}) \\ &=\frac{s^2-h^2}{h}\cdot\tanh^{-1}(\frac{h}{s}) \\ &=s\cdot(\frac{s}{h}-\frac{h}{s})\cdot\tanh^{-1}(\frac{h}{s}) \\ &=s\cdot(\frac{1}{v}-v)\cdot\tanh^{-1}(v) \end{align*}\) Example: \(h=3\) \(s=4\) \(x=4\cdot(\frac{4}{3}-\frac{3}{4})\cdot\tanh^{-1}(\frac{3}{4})\approx 2.27022850723\) Limit \(h\to s\) For \(v\to1\) the value \(\tanh^{-1}(v)\to\infty\) but at the same time \(\frac{1}{v}-v\to0\). Thus we can apply L'Hôpital's rule to find: \(\begin{align*} \lim_{v\to1}(\frac{1}{v}-v)\cdot\tanh^{-1}(v) &= \lim_{v\to1}\frac{1-v^2}{v}\cdot\tanh^{-1}(v) \\ &= \lim_{v\to1}\frac{\tanh^{-1}(v)}{\frac{v}{1-v^2}} \\ &= \lim_{v\to1}\frac{\frac{1}{1-v^2}}{\frac{1+v^2}{(1-v^2)^2}} \\ &= \lim_{v\to1}\frac{1-v^2}{1+v^2}=\frac{1-1}{1+1}=0 \end{align*}\) And thus: \(x=s\cdot0=0\) Which we already knew. Cheers Thomas |
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Puzzle for you - Zaphod - 08-16-2018, 09:45 PM
RE: Puzzle for you - Albert Chan - 08-16-2018, 10:19 PM
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RE: Puzzle for you - ttw - 08-17-2018, 03:13 AM
RE: Puzzle for you - Thomas Klemm - 08-17-2018 03:59 AM
RE: Puzzle for you - Albert Chan - 08-17-2018, 12:02 PM
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RE: Puzzle for you - Csaba Tizedes - 08-19-2018, 06:57 PM
RE: Puzzle for you - Albert Chan - 08-19-2018, 07:53 PM
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