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Ti-58c: Strange behavior
09-03-2019, 03:29 PM
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RE: Ti-58c: Strange behavior
(09-03-2019 09:39 AM)Doctor_Jacek Wrote:  Goodmorning everyone,

After connecting my T-58C to an external NiMh battery pack and arranging the foam on the keyboard, the calculator came back to life.

If I run 2nd-Pgm 01 Sbr = after 30 seconds the display shows a 1.

If I run Pi (3.14xx) STO 05, I turn off the machine then immediately turn it back on and run RCL 05 I get Pi.

Same behavior if I wait 15 minutes before turning it back on.

All this could suggest that the calculator is working properly.

But if I wait about 30/45 minutes (or more) and I repeat the command RCL 05 I get a meaningless and non Pi number.

What could be the cause of this operation?

Could it be the electrolytic capacitor?

If an electrolytic is the mechanism that provides a voltage to perform the RAM keep-alive when the power switch is turned off, that would be my first suspect. I presume you are leaving the external NiMH battery power supply you have connected and are just using the power switch. I don't claim to know what the TI-58C uses for the keep-alive. If it is a mondo electrolytic, at 40 years of age it wouldn't surprise me if it's a bit leaky with the electron pixies slowly dancing across the electrolyte internally. Sometimes electrolytic caps will reform the electrolyte internally to the point of working well if they're left with power applied. Getting back to an "as new" state is another matter. Looked in the hardware docs I have for the 58/59 and there was nothing in them about how the 58C performs the memory keep-alive. I do know a standard 58 will do OK for a few seconds with the battery pack removed to place it onto the printer, but don't dawdle.

I've got a TI-58 (not a "C") and if I need to have it keep its its current state alive, I leave it plugged in to the charger. The original pair of BP-1A battery packs I have for it were modified for removable AA NiCd cells. If you've got original battery packs, you can have them rebuilt for this. I hope you didn't pitch any out. They're impossible to find. eBay sellers typically dump them if they've leaked and then sell the calculator without them - "no batteries" is not unusual. A man in Georgia makes replacement battery packs with a printer but it's better if you have one that can be rebuilt, whether or not the batteries have leaked. Note that the 58/58C/59 should not be operated with the charger plugged in without a battery pack or batteries in place. The batteries are the power supply filter on the full-wave bridge rectifier circuit.

Out of curiosity, what did you use for keyboard foam . . . did you replace it? If so, with what and most important, how thick is it. Mine is in need of it.



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Ti-58c: Strange behavior - Doctor_Jacek - 09-03-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: Ti-58c: Strange behavior - jlind - 09-03-2019 03:29 PM
RE: Ti-58c: Strange behavior - Nigel (UK) - 09-03-2019, 07:53 PM

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