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Time to abandon TAS?
06-22-2020, 10:23 PM
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(06-22-2020 04:36 PM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 04:15 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  It's not just a reminder, or at least it wasn't always. The circumflex used to indicate vowel lengthening, and in some cases it still does, like votre/vôtre, or in Belgian French in general.

It still does in Welsh, for example.

Trivia question: how many letters are there in the Welsh alphabet? It's less than 26...

This is getting way OT, but Japanese has a couple of phonetic characters (kana) that were discontinued around the late 1940s when they overhauled the "spelling" of words to match how the pronunciation had shifted over the centuries. So ゑ and ヱ (we/ye), and ゐ and ヰ (wi) were dropped and replaced with the existing え and エ (e), and い and イ (i) matching how the pronunciation of those characters had shifted.

The Japanese currency "yen" is actually pronounced "en", though you can hear some vestiges of the y sound reemerging occasionally, particularly when followed by an "n" sound (as in 千円 - thousand yen - which frequently sounds more like sen-yen than sen-en).

And then there's を (wo), which is only used as a particle/suffix indicating a direct object. The "w" sound has long since faded away, but the old kana was kept for some reason, and occasionally you can hear a "w" sound slipping out in some dialects and syllable combinations. But in almost all cases, it's pronounced exactly the same as お and オ (o).

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Time to abandon TAS? - twoweims - 06-18-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - grsbanks - 06-18-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - twoweims - 06-18-2020, 08:38 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - twoweims - 06-19-2020, 02:15 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - toml_12953 - 06-19-2020, 02:58 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - SlideRule - 06-19-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - toml_12953 - 06-18-2020, 08:54 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - rprosperi - 06-19-2020, 08:26 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-19-2020, 09:41 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - twoweims - 06-19-2020, 11:28 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Nad - 06-20-2020, 06:39 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Guenter Schink - 06-20-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-19-2020, 11:44 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - smp - 06-20-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Felix Gross - 06-20-2020, 02:59 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - rprosperi - 06-20-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - rprosperi - 06-21-2020, 01:46 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Nad - 06-21-2020, 05:31 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-21-2020, 10:49 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Guenter Schink - 06-21-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-21-2020, 09:36 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - toml_12953 - 06-23-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Gene - 06-20-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - mfleming - 06-21-2020, 12:53 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Dave Britten - 06-21-2020, 01:12 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - pinkman - 06-21-2020, 10:05 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - rprosperi - 06-22-2020, 01:09 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-22-2020, 01:11 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - pinkman - 06-22-2020, 05:11 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - toml_12953 - 06-22-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-22-2020, 04:15 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - grsbanks - 06-22-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Dave Britten - 06-22-2020 10:23 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - grsbanks - 06-22-2020, 06:11 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - pinkman - 06-22-2020, 11:37 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - pinkman - 06-22-2020, 01:14 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Geoff Quickfall - 06-22-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Guenter Schink - 06-22-2020, 10:29 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - grsbanks - 06-23-2020, 06:40 AM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - BruceH - 06-22-2020, 10:33 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - rprosperi - 06-22-2020, 11:12 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Thomas Okken - 06-22-2020, 10:23 PM
RE: Time to abandon TAS? - Nad - 06-23-2020, 05:20 AM



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