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06-13-2022, 12:25 PM
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(06-04-2022 09:04 AM)Boub65 Wrote:  But what some people don't get is that finding instructions deep into menus is very annoying when calculating AND programming. For example X=0? or X<Y? need something like 5 key strokes to get them, ISG/DSE 3 keystrokes...

DM32 has most of it's instructions on the keyboard (or one level menu depth) and THAT is it's differentiation for people crunching numbers or making numerous simple programs (complexity of instructions vs simplicity/speed of keying).
On Free42/Plus42/DM42, if you are in program mode, you can once for all press shift+"PGM.FCM" twice, that will make this menu sticky. From there:
-LBL,RTN, INPUT, VIEW are one keystroke away (vs. 2 for the 32SII);
-ISG, DSE, PSE are 2 keystrokes away (just like the 32SII);
-Conditionals are 3 keystrokes away (just like the 32SII).

You can't seriously argue that the 32SII requires less keystrokes for quick programming, in fact it is quite the opposite Smile

For normal calculations:
-PROB and FLAGS menus are only 1 level deep, just like the 32SII; same for BASE as long if you don't go into LOGIC, which is not available on the 32SII anyway;
-STAT is only one level deep as the 32SII, unless you go into CFIT, which yes is more more level than the 32SII, but the 32SII can only handle linear regression, not other models, so the cost is not very high; And Plus42 added a submenu to directly access statistical sums, just like the 32SII (ok, 5 keystrokes away instead of 3, granted, but again you can make the menu sticky and keep the functions handy for as long you wish);
-COMPLEX operations only require normal keystrokes (+,-,...) vs. cumbersome "shift + CMPLX" + op (3 keystrokes !) sequences;
-Plus42 has promoted RUP, X<>, %CH and VIEW to one keystroke (vs. 2 for the 32SII);
-Ok, Conversions (RAD/DEG/HMS/HR/POL/RECT) require 3 keystrokes and not 2 like in the 32SII; not that a big deal, and if you have to use these conversions frequently for a while, you can just make the CONVERT menu sticky for a while, and then all the conversations are only one keystroke away vs.2 !
-Ok, the hyperbolics functions are not immediately available. If you really need them handy, you can alway put then in the CUSTOM menu.

For equations:
-Plus42 allows full editing capabilities, whereas the 32SII forces you to delete everything past the mistake you want to correct;
-Plus42 will soon (version 1.1) allow direct alphanumerical entry, whereas on the 32SII even if the keys are labelled with alpha characters, entering alpha forces you to use RCL + letter (2 keystrokes like the 42S and current 1.0 Plus42), which is just cumbersome.

Am I missing something, or Plus42 is overall way more handy than the 32SII, even when restricting the assessment to the number of keystrokes ? Smile
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