HP41CL newbie question
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03-19-2018, 07:51 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-19-2018 04:45 PM)smp Wrote: Are instructions posted anywhere for "switching to YFNX and PRWX"? I posted a link above for the YFNX manual. YFNX provides an updated and enhanced set of commands that replace those in YFNP (the default CL function set). It provides the same capabilities, plus more and with more flexibility than the default commands. An example is with YFNP, you 'plug-in' ROMs by port number (e.g. 1U or 3L) while YFNX uses the actual page address (e.g. Page 8 (1L) or Page F (4U) ). PWRX is Angel's set of "Power Utilities" matched with YFNX (manual is here). This is installed just like any other ROM; for example to plug it into Page 8 (aka 1U) you XEQ 'PLUG' which then prompts for the module name, so type 'PWRX', then it prompts for the page so enter '8' and then it's loaded (you can verify with CAT 2). --Bob Prosperi |
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03-19-2018, 08:01 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-19-2018 06:03 PM)Neve Wrote: Thank you Sylvain. Greatly appreciated. Yes, but that is partly his point - to clear any incorrectly installed (or no longer needed) ROMs. I think you still have the CL Utils ROM (that matches with YFNP) installed, which is no longer needed since you now have the PWRX ROM. If you find it's in port 9 (for example) you can easily remove it with: XEQ 'PLUG', then when it prompts for ROM name, reply with 'EMPT' then when it prompts for the port number reply with 9. This is a convenient shorthand for EMPTY port 9. If you are used to the port numbering, here is the port/page map 1L 8 1U 9 2L A 2U B 3L C 3U D 4L E 4U F Ports lower than 8 have restrictions and require knowledge of internals so stay away from those for a while. --Bob Prosperi |
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03-19-2018, 09:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2018 09:22 PM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
Ok, this may go deeper than anticipated... too many variables all at once!
If you have already used the CLUPDATE process and are comfortable with the way it works (using Sylvain tool) then the easiest approach will be to wait until Monte has added the patched ROMs into the complete package and has made the updates to the IMDB and FLDB. Once that's done you can follow the automated process, and it\ll all be updated as needed. Otherwise there's the chance to do a punctual update of just these two - understanding you won't use them simultaneously, it's an either/or choice: YFNP with Power_CL or YFNX with PowerCl_Extreme If you want to try the punctual update then you'll need to use the CLUPDATE in a less automated way. I'm not the best person to provide guidance for that since I always use the CLWRITER DOS utility... Hope this helps, it's a bit daunting at first but once you get the knack of things it becomes crystal clear. "To live or die by your own sword one must first learn to wield it aptly." |
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03-19-2018, 09:42 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-19-2018 09:20 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote: Ok, this may go deeper than anticipated... too many variables all at once! As always, thank you for you valuable input and patience. I am confortable with clupdate. So I’ll either wait for the complete package to be added by Monte, or I’ll wait for Sylvain to write a little guide when he’ll be available. Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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03-19-2018, 11:23 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-19-2018 09:42 PM)Neve Wrote: As always, thank you for you valuable input and patience. Amen! Thanks so much to all you folks who jump in and assist, time after time. I, too, am comfortable with using the clupdate process, so I'll wait for the complete package to be updated by Monte. Thanks! smp |
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03-20-2018, 01:17 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-19-2018 05:26 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:Neve,(03-19-2018 01:10 PM)Neve Wrote: Once again, I have no idea how to update individual images. I don’t want to mess things up.I will write you a small how-to when I am back home tonight. [GMT-4h] I came home late last night and did not have the time to finish and test the procedure, I should be able to finish it tonight. Sorry about that. Sylvain |
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03-20-2018, 01:36 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-20-2018 01:17 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(03-19-2018 05:26 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: I will write you a small how-to when I am back home tonight. [GMT-4h]Neve, Sylvain, No problem. That’s ok. It’s aleardy very nice of you to offer to do it. Take your time. Regards, Neve Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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03-21-2018, 01:05 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2018 01:12 AM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
Hello Neve,
There is two possibility here ... The first solution involve copying the ROM image(s) into 41CL RAM, then map the RAM image to a virtual port. This solution is very easy to do and it is an ideal way to use a new ROMs while waiting for Monte to update his standard distribution file. The second solution involve copying the ROM image(s) into 41CL Flash and manually update FLDB ROM image. This solution is a lot longer to do, need more manipulation to complete, but has the benefit to be permanent. I am assuming that you will update your 41CL with Monte updated package when available, so I will show the first solution for now. In order to do this procedure, you need the following:
Here we go ...
Sylvain Edit: typos |
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03-21-2018, 12:20 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
Thank you Sylvain!!!
Regards. Neve Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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03-21-2018, 01:28 PM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
Sylvain is a beast!
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03-23-2018, 12:03 AM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
Sylvain's procedure can be a little simpler. Replace section C, steps 2-6 with:
PLUG then 4LIB 4 PLUG then PWRX 9 "804090-8820" then YPOKE but the updated images are in the rom_files_180322.zip files on the CL website, for use with clupdate. |
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03-23-2018, 12:36 AM
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RE: HP41CL newbie question
(03-23-2018 12:03 AM)Monte Dalrymple Wrote: Sylvain's procedure can be a little simpler. Replace section C, steps 2-6 with: Thank you Monte!! Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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