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Incorrect values with some trigonometric functions
08-03-2018, 10:43 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2018 10:49 PM by jeanjpersia.)
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Incorrect values with some trigonometric functions
I don't have too much time with this my HP prime rev:C and in an exam, I realized that when I try to put things like Cos(π/2) the answer is not the number that I want, I have a similar problem with graphics if I put the cursor in (1,0) the calculator says that I have in (0.99999999,0).

If someone knows what I need to change in settings to solve the problem, it would be great. thanks in advance!

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08-04-2018, 06:52 AM
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I think you need to go to CAS mode to get the correct result and set the angle measure to radians in the Home Settings Smile
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08-04-2018, 07:28 AM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2018 07:29 AM by Stevetuc.)
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(08-04-2018 06:52 AM)Aries Wrote:  I think you need to go to CAS mode to get the correct result and set the angle measure to radians in the Home Settings Smile
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The small error will still exist in home mode though. It exists in the Casio too but the casio rounds such residual errors in trig functions to 0 to present a clean result. The Prime is more honest. Maybe for educational use, there could be a user flag that toggles this behaviour so that say a trig result below a threshold < 1e-11 say, is displayed as 0.
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08-04-2018, 09:26 AM
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(08-04-2018 07:28 AM)Stevetuc Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:52 AM)Aries Wrote:  I think you need to go to CAS mode to get the correct result and set the angle measure to radians in the Home Settings Smile
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Aries Wink

The small error will still exist in home mode though. It exists in the Casio too but the casio rounds such residual errors in trig functions to 0 to present a clean result. The Prime is more honest. Maybe for educational use, there could be a user flag that toggles this behaviour so that say a trig result below a threshold < 1e-11 say, is displayed as 0.

Y' know, Home = numerical and CAS = symbolic, on any numerical calculator getting a non-zero result (for cos(pi/2)) is an acceptable solution, as PI cannot be represented numerically.
This is where CAS comes into play, as a symbolic solver.
As you said, the Prime is more honest in this respect.
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08-04-2018, 10:39 AM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2018 10:40 AM by Stevetuc.)
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(08-04-2018 09:26 AM)Aries Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 07:28 AM)Stevetuc Wrote:  The small error will still exist in home mode though. It exists in the Casio too but the casio rounds such residual errors in trig functions to 0 to present a clean result. The Prime is more honest. Maybe for educational use, there could be a user flag that toggles this behaviour so that say a trig result below a threshold < 1e-11 say, is displayed as 0.

Y' know, Home = numerical and CAS = symbolic, on any numerical calculator getting a non-zero result (for cos(pi/2)) is an acceptable solution, as PI cannot be represented numerically.
This is where CAS comes into play, as a symbolic solver.
As you said, the Prime is more honest in this respect.
Best,

Aries Wink

Indeed. I was targeting home mode in my comments. Any calc not showing an error here (numeric mode) is truncating or rounding the error. Im happy to see the error, but I can understand the comforting feeling to see cos(pi/2)=0, which is why the casio presents it as such even for a numeric calculation!
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08-04-2018, 01:42 PM
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(08-04-2018 06:52 AM)Aries Wrote:  I think you need to go to CAS mode to get the correct result and set the angle measure to radians in the Home Settings Smile
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Aries Wink

THANKS!!
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08-04-2018, 06:30 PM
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(08-04-2018 01:42 PM)jeanjpersia Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:52 AM)Aries Wrote:  I think you need to go to CAS mode to get the correct result and set the angle measure to radians in the Home Settings Smile
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Aries Wink

THANKS!!

My pleasure Wink
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08-05-2018, 03:04 AM
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Also note that you can quickly toggle your angle settings by tapping near the clock, and then on the appropriate angle symbol.

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