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12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
10-24-2019, 06:14 AM (This post was last modified: 10-31-2019 02:41 AM by Tim Wessman.)
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12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
Hello,

In case you have any desire to test or play with the updated "official HP" apps for the 12C,12CP and 15C they are available - or will be shortly available - on both Android and iOS.

There is basically no change from before, but they have been rebuilt for newer OS versions and things like better haptic touch, sound, etc has been done. The underlying capability and form/function did not change in any way. (I hope!)

Android
Here is the Opt-in URL for the following apps:
12C: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.hp.hp12c
12CP: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.hp.hp12cpt
15C: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.hp.hp15c15

iOS
12C: https://testflight.apple.com/join/gRYZBFYc
12CP: https://testflight.apple.com/join/aYSwG4U2
15C: https://testflight.apple.com/join/WAi4IAu5

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10-24-2019, 07:38 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
For some reason I can't download any of the three apps. It says "Your account isn't currently eligible for this app's testing program". Maybe it's because I'm in Spain?
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10-24-2019, 07:48 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
Hi Tim,

Thanks, would love to try, but all links are telling me that my account is not eligible, anything I need to do ?

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10-24-2019, 10:55 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
It doesn't seem to have anything to do with which country you're in. I'm in the U.S. and all three links take me to this message:

Quote:App not available for this account

Your account isn't currently eligible for this app's testing program.

If you've been invited to become a tester, make sure you're signed in to the account that was invited to the testing program. If you've been invited to a Google Group or Google+ Community as part of the program, make sure you've joined the Group or Community.
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10-24-2019, 01:16 PM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
All 3 of these apps were updated automatically on my Android phone yesterday, they just came along with other updates. But note that I HAD been on the earlier Beta test 'list' so they probably are still being treated as Beta, and limited to release only to those on the old list.

@Tim - any chance that once the Beta review has established the build process is OK, 2 old change requests could be integrated:

1. On the 12C and 12CP, on the Portrait mode layout, change the Square Root key to %, used FAR more frequently by Financial machine users.

2. 12CP emulator returns results inconsistent with hardware 12CP for some calculations. I can search and find the posts from 1-2 years ago if needed to find the specific cases found if needed.

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10-24-2019, 03:04 PM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
Hoping these bugs got worked out:
https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-402.html

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-5176.html

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10-24-2019, 03:13 PM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
Thanks very much, Tim.

I had the 15C app already installed, and got the update. It wouldn't turn on — blank LCD — and eventually I had to reset it, losing my programs. Not a big deal.

Would you like this reporting via calcbeta, is that only for the Prime updates? Or is it just expected?

Seems OK after update; will test more.

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Now to talk myself into buying one or both of the 12C apps; they're quite expensive! Smile

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10-25-2019, 02:35 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
(10-24-2019 01:16 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  [snip]

2. 12CP emulator returns results inconsistent with hardware 12CP for some calculations. I can search and find the posts from 1-2 years ago if needed to find the specific cases found if needed.

Here is the thread with several examples of the 12CP Android emulator providing different results from the genuine 12CP:

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-11...#pid103736

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10-25-2019, 06:47 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
I think the links should be functional now.

No, there is not any additional changes past simple recompiling on newer versions of ios/android.

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10-31-2019, 02:41 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
Added iOS links.

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10-31-2019, 05:25 PM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
(10-31-2019 02:41 AM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  Added iOS links.

Seen, installed, run. Pretty cool, but the display is incorrect (same for 15C and 12CP, did not try 12C) -> am I the only one?
   
   
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11-01-2019, 10:36 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
My displays look fine iOS on iPhone 7
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11-02-2019, 08:58 AM
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(10-31-2019 05:25 PM)pinkman Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 02:41 AM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  Added iOS links.

Seen, installed, run. Pretty cool, but the display is incorrect (same for 15C and 12CP, did not try 12C) -> am I the only one?

Out of curiosity, which way were you holding it when you started the app up? veritcal or horizontal?

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11-02-2019, 09:37 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
(11-02-2019 08:58 AM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 05:25 PM)pinkman Wrote:  Seen, installed, run. Pretty cool, but the display is incorrect (same for 15C and 12CP, did not try 12C) -> am I the only one?

Out of curiosity, which way were you holding it when you started the app up? veritcal or horizontal?

Ah! The infamous, Apple "you're holding it wrong!" bug. Smile

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11-02-2019, 11:15 AM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
(11-02-2019 08:58 AM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 05:25 PM)pinkman Wrote:  Seen, installed, run. Pretty cool, but the display is incorrect (same for 15C and 12CP, did not try 12C) -> am I the only one?

Out of curiosity, which way were you holding it when you started the app up? veritcal or horizontal?

Vertically.
I also tried starting it horizontally, but same behavior.
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11-08-2019, 04:27 PM
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RE: 12C/15C/15CP Public Beta - iOS/Android
(11-02-2019 09:37 AM)ijabbott Wrote:  Ah! The infamous, Apple "you're holding it wrong!" bug. Smile

Nah, just last time I saw something like this it did have a different behavior on some phones/ios versions if the phone happened to be sideways. This one seems like only might be on the latest phones...

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