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41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
02-15-2020, 01:54 PM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2020 02:38 PM by cdmackay.)
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41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
hi,

In the manual (4.W.13.5) for Ángel Martin's excellent PowerCL Extreme module, it suggests that the sub-function launchers XQ1 & XQ2 are assigned to the PGRM & ALPHA keys respectively (when within the main CL launcher).

On my 41CL (latest available module version), both those keys get me XQ$1.

Am I mis-reading it, or is that how it's supposed to be?

It's not a huge issue, of course, since there are lots of other ways, but it seemed odd to have the same thing on both keys.

But, I suppose, as they effectively do the same thing, perhaps there's no need? I'm not quite clear on what the difference is between them, at least when not in PGRM.

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02-16-2020, 07:14 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2020 07:18 AM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
(02-15-2020 01:54 PM)cdmackay Wrote:  In the manual (4.W.13.5) for Ángel Martin's excellent PowerCL Extreme module, it suggests that the sub-function launchers XQ1 & XQ2 are assigned to the PGRM & ALPHA keys respectively (when within the main CL launcher).

On my 41CL (latest available module version), both those keys get me XQ$1.

Am I mis-reading it, or is that how it's supposed to be?

But, I suppose, as they effectively do the same thing, perhaps there's no need? I'm not quite clear on what the difference is between them, at least when not in PGRM.

Thanks for the bug report - you're correct, pressing ALPHA after sCL should call XEQ2. I have corrected this and the new ROM is available - see attached.

W.r.t. the differences between them, your impression is right - very darn similar but they're both needed, let me clarify.

When you call a sub-function they both access it using the name you type in, regardless of which one of the banks it's located on. Thus they're interchangeable when you either call the function in manual operation or enter it as a program line.

However, the lines entered in a program automatically select either one of them, depending on said bank. Therefore if you typed XQ$1 "CLEM" (or XQ$2 "CLEM" ) it registers the lines { XQ$1 , 5 } but typing XQ$1 "ST-YK" ( or XQ$2 "ST-YK" ) registers the lines { XQ$2, 5 }. Both sub-functions have the index#5, each on its own table.

In summary, both launchers need to exist for this purpose, but you don't have to worry about which table to use when typing a sub-function name, as either one will work. - ok, there's a small difference in how long it takes to find the sub-function, since the search is sequential and it starts at the table you direct by using XQ$1 or XQ$2 - but that's not essential...

Hope this clarifies.
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02-16-2020, 01:59 PM
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
(02-16-2020 07:14 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Thanks for the bug report - you're correct, pressing ALPHA after sCL should call XEQ2. I have corrected this and the new ROM is available - see attached.

@Angel - FYI - no file attached

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02-16-2020, 04:44 PM
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
(02-16-2020 07:14 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Thanks for the bug report…

thanks very much indeed, Ángel, and for the helpful explanation; I get it now Smile

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03-27-2021, 01:24 AM
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
(02-16-2020 07:14 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Thanks for the bug report - you're correct, pressing ALPHA after sCL should call XEQ2. I have corrected this…

hi Ángel, did this fix ever get uploaded? The current 41CL image still seems to have the issue?

thanks!

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03-29-2021, 07:04 AM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2021 07:05 AM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
(03-27-2021 01:24 AM)cdmackay Wrote:  
(02-16-2020 07:14 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Thanks for the bug report - you're correct, pressing ALPHA after sCL should call XEQ2. I have corrected this…
hi Ángel, did this fix ever get uploaded? The current 41CL image still seems to have the issue?
thanks!

Well, I thought I had but just checked and saw the same glitch was still there...
duly corrected in the attached files though, let me know if it works for you.


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03-29-2021, 02:45 PM
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
thanks very much indeed, Ángel,

(03-29-2021 07:04 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Well, I thought I had but just checked and saw the same glitch was still there...
duly corrected in the attached files though, let me know if it works for you.

I'm embarrassed to reveal that I've not got my PILBOX wired up yet, so can't test this on my 41CL.

But I can on the 41X, so will do that and report, thanks!

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03-29-2021, 05:19 PM
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RE: 41CL — PowerCL_Ext PWRX XQ1/XQ2 key assignments
Confirmed, that new PWREXT.MOD gives me $2 on ALPHA now, on my 41X.

thanks very much indeed, Ángel.

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