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Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
11-21-2022, 08:20 AM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 06:54 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Much more information and discussion around C43 you will find at the swissmicros forum in "WP43 Alternative key layout --> C43"
Thanks. Because it is 159 pages long, can you answer another quick question?
Is there a better file with the overlay layout than the Paper Template OVER keys: 2022-09-29_C43_WP43S_print.pdf?

I can build paper overlays easily (see here: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=11142) and have 2 DM42. So I could build my own C43 quickly.
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11-21-2022, 09:00 AM (This post was last modified: 11-21-2022 09:36 AM by Thomas_Sch.)
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 08:20 AM)pascal_meheut Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 06:54 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Much more information and discussion around C43 you will find at the swissmicros forum in "WP43 Alternative key layout --> C43"
Thanks. Because it is 159 pages long, can you answer another quick question?
Is there a better file with the overlay layout than the Paper Template OVER keys: 2022-09-29_C43_WP43S_print.pdf?

I can build paper overlays easily (see here: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=11142) and have 2 DM42. So I could build my own C43 quickly.

As far as I have followed the communication, last from the meeting in Alschwing, the file should be up to date. But Jako (https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/user-9577.html) should know the current status better.

edit: Your overlay is very impressive!
Do you have more details regarding this overlays, like type and weight of paper, used printer, used programs, etc.?
This would be very helpful for potential experiments of my own.
(found your post at https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic....529#p24529 ? )
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11-21-2022, 10:30 AM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 09:00 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Do you have more details regarding this overlays, like type and weight of paper, used printer, used programs, etc.?
Paper is Epson matte heavyweight 167g, printer is an Epson P800 but any inkjet printer will do.
I print with Photoshop but any image processing program will be ok.
I print, let dry for one hour just in case and apply 2 to 3 layers of varnish, let dry for 24h and flatten under heavy books for a few days if necessary.
After that, I can cut with a laser cutter driven with Lightburn (free).

That's all.
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11-21-2022, 11:54 AM (This post was last modified: 11-21-2022 12:15 PM by Thomas_Sch.)
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 10:30 AM)pascal_meheut Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 09:00 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Do you have more details regarding this overlays, like type and weight of paper, used printer, used programs, etc.?
Paper is Epson matte heavyweight 167g, printer is an Epson P800 but any inkjet printer will do.
I print with Photoshop but any image processing program will be ok.
I print, let dry for one hour just in case and apply 2 to 3 layers of varnish, let dry for 24h and flatten under heavy books for a few days if necessary.
After that, I can cut with a laser cutter driven with Lightburn (free).

That's all.
Thanks for the tips!
Any special product for varnish, e.g. a spray?
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11-21-2022, 12:36 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 04:38 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Website is here: https://classic43.com/Classic43/Home.html

Lots of information here, read up. (you and lots of other folks...)

Thanks Bob! Lots of information indeed. Impressive use of the display - hope the bezel is available soon!

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11-21-2022, 12:50 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 08:20 AM)pascal_meheut Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 06:54 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Much more information and discussion around C43 you will find at the swissmicros forum in "WP43 Alternative key layout --> C43"
Thanks. Because it is 159 pages long, can you answer another quick question?
Is there a better file with the overlay layout than the Paper Template OVER keys: 2022-09-29_C43_WP43S_print.pdf?

I can build paper overlays easily (see here: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=11142) and have 2 DM42. So I could build my own C43 quickly.

Hi, I will update the printable PDF card (mentioned in the quote above) with our high quality bezel image, for home printing. This is the same image that appears in the "flyer" which is included in the referenced latest firmware download. I will report back here when it is uploaded.

For a good idea on the most recent happenings, navigate to the download page and look for the 5 yellow links which are the latest files. There is a lot of info. Also see my Allschwil presentation.

Jaco Mostert, Elec Eng
C47 on DM42, 42S, WP34C&S, 28C, 35S, 32Sii, had 11C; used 67, 85; iOS:42s, Free42, WP31S&34S, HCalc; OSX:WP34C.
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11-21-2022, 12:59 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 11:54 AM)Thomas_Sch Wrote:  Any special product for varnish, e.g. a spray?
One layer of Sennelier satin, 2 of Sennelier matte, 20 minutes drying time.
I'm not sure you can find them in the US but any similar graphics-art spray will do.

I've also tried some liquid varnish and it protects better but this is not really necessary.

Also, the WP43s/C43 pdf document recommends some Fujifilm 267g paper but the I chose a lighter one thin enough to fit in the lateral holes of the DM42 and stay in place.

(11-21-2022 12:50 PM)Jaco@cocoon-creations.com Wrote:  Hi, I will update the printable PDF card (mentioned in the quote above) with our high quality bezel image, for home printing. This is the same image that appears in the "flyer" which is included in the referenced latest firmware download. I will report back here when it is uploaded.
Thanks. I was redrawing it properly in Adobe Illustrator but I'll wait for you upload.
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11-22-2022, 05:59 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-21-2022 12:50 PM)Jaco@cocoon-creations.com Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 08:20 AM)pascal_meheut Wrote:  Is there a better file with the overlay layout than the Paper Template OVER keys: 2022-09-29_C43_WP43S_print.pdf?
Hi, I will update the printable PDF card (mentioned in the quote above) with our high quality bezel image, for home printing. This is the same image that appears in the "flyer" which is included in the referenced latest firmware download. I will report back here when it is uploaded.

The printable paper card with cutouts is uploaded to the download page at https://classic43.com/Classic43/Links_an...loads.html (do a text search for 'paper bezel').

Jaco Mostert, Elec Eng
C47 on DM42, 42S, WP34C&S, 28C, 35S, 32Sii, had 11C; used 67, 85; iOS:42s, Free42, WP31S&34S, HCalc; OSX:WP34C.
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11-22-2022, 06:31 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-22-2022 05:59 PM)Jaco@cocoon-creations.com Wrote:  able paper card with cutouts is uploaded to the download page at https://classic43.com/Classic43/Links_an...loads.html (do a text search for 'paper bezel').
Thanks. This is perfect. I'll try to print and cut an overlay this week and let you know.
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12-15-2022, 05:35 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
(11-22-2022 05:59 PM)Jaco@cocoon-creations.com Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 12:50 PM)Jaco@cocoon-creations.com Wrote:  Hi, I will update the printable PDF card (mentioned in the quote above) with our high quality bezel image, for home printing. This is the same image that appears in the "flyer" which is included in the referenced latest firmware download. I will report back here when it is uploaded.

The printable paper card with cutouts is uploaded to the download page at https://classic43.com/Classic43/Links_an...loads.html (do a text search for 'paper bezel').

Are you sure? I can't seem to find the string 'paper bezel' when following that link.
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12-15-2022, 06:15 PM
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RE: Joint statement from the WP43 developers and the C43 team
Sorry I broke the link on 2022-12-05 when I uploaded the firmware file...
fixed.

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