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HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
01-16-2023, 03:48 PM
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HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Hi all,
i have a HP-41cx with IL module and nov64d module.
On the loop i have a cassette drive HP84161 an an IL printer HP84162.
The nov64d has an active Hepax (tried both 4h and 1d) and CCD-OSX module installed. Others rampages are free. (showing NO Rom as expected)

I have some programs on the Hepax ram and HEPDIR shows 2310 or so regs free.

If the printer is on HEPDIR shows an ERROR: 'NO H-FILEYSYS'. I have disabled the switch on the IL-module so the printer rom does not swap to rampage 4, but no sucess.
I cannot explain this behaviour.

If the cassettedrive is the only device on the loop I can access the HEPAX ram as expected.

What am i doing wrong?

Ralf
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01-21-2023, 09:06 PM
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RE: HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Hi Ralf,

If my understanding of the symptoms is correct, the HP-IL module is conflicting with the auto-allocation feature of the HEPAX module in your NoV-64d.

When first turned ON, HEPAX finds page #6 free, and allocates itself into this address.

Once you enabled the printer switch in the HP-IL module, it's *also* allocated into page #6.

Using HEPAX 4H will also creates a conflict, since this version requires LIBRARY4 into page #4, and the printer code is allocated into this page when disabled by the switch.

Sorry about the bad news, HP-IL and HEPAX issues on a CX are known since long ago and you can find info about it in the HEPAX manual.

Using HEPAX 1D on a CX with your configuration may work if you set the printer to enable *before* turning your 41 on. This should force HEPAX code into page #C (if available); but I have not tested this exact configuration and have not the HP-IL module with me to confirm that end.

Also, using a CV can help (if you don't need CX functionalities) since HEPAX (again, 1D) will be allocated into page #5 avoiding conflicts with any other module (no TIMER allowed though).

Hope you find this information useful.

Please keep posting if you try some of the above.

Best regards.

Diego.

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01-22-2023, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2023 03:13 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Just to add on Diego answer, I have done some testing scenario that may help you.

HP-41CX fullnut + NoV-64d (default configuration: HEPAX-1D, no other roms)
Code:
HEXEDIT
addr : data :  xrom  : description
4000 : 000  :   00   : no rom
6000 : n/a  : hidden : auto-assigned address HEPAX ROM
7000 : 000  :   00   : no rom
8000 : 00B  :   11   : first  HEPAX RAM page
9000 : 00C  :   12   : second HEPAX RAM page
A000 : 00D  :   13   : third  HEPAX RAM page
B000 : 00E  :   14   : fourth HEPAX RAM page
C000 : 000  :   00   : no rom

HP-41CX fullnut + NoV-64d (default configuration) + HP-IL (printer disabled)
Code:
HEXEDIT
addr : data :  xrom  : description
4000 : 01D  :   29   : HP-IL printer ROM - disabled
6000 : n/a  : hidden : auto-assigned address HEPAX ROM
7000 : 01C  :   28   : HP-IL ROM
8000 : 00B  :   11   : first  HEPAX RAM page
9000 : 00C  :   12   : second HEPAX RAM page
A000 : 00D  :   13   : third  HEPAX RAM page
B000 : 00E  :   14   : fourth HEPAX RAM page
C000 : 000  :   00   : no rom

HP-41CX fullnut + NoV-64d (default configuration) + HP-IL (printer enabled)
Code:
HEXEDIT
addr : data :  xrom  : description
4000 : 000  :   00   : no rom
6000 : 01D  :   29   : HP-IL printer ROM - enabled
7000 : 01C  :   28   : HP-IL ROM
8000 : 00B  :   11   : first  HEPAX RAM page
9000 : 00C  :   12   : second HEPAX RAM page
A000 : 00D  :   13   : third  HEPAX RAM page
B000 : 00E  :   14   : fourth HEPAX RAM page
C000 : n/a  : hidden : auto-assigned address HEPAX ROM

edit 1: typos

edit 2: if you want us to be more precise, please give us your exact ClonicConfig configuration so we can reproduce your specific setup.

edit 3: Same exact tests with a 41CX halfnut (s/n: 2814S...) gives the same results.
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01-22-2023, 11:46 PM
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RE: HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Hi Sylvain,

Thanks for taking the time to check these configurations and confirming the behaviour expected on every case.

Your input is always welcome. :-)

Best wishes.

Diego.

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01-23-2023, 11:41 AM
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RE: HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Hi Diego and Sylvain,
thank you very much for solving my problem and the configuration examples. It works now and i am happy.
Ralf
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01-25-2023, 08:32 PM
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RE: HP41-CX problem with Printer and Digitaldrive and NOV64d
Hi Ralf,

And thanks for the positive feedback.

Enjoy your 41s! :-)

Diego.

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