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Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
07-18-2023, 07:14 PM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2023 07:18 PM by matalog.)
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Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
I cannot seem to get any version later than (2018 10 16) to work on my Windows 8.1 machine.

Are there any particular requirements that the program has, maybe I need to install something first?

Quote:Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: HPPrime.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 6438ec3b
Fault Module Name: ucrtbase.DLL
Fault Module Version: 10.0.14393.2990
Fault Module Timestamp: 5caeb96f
Exception Offset: 000000000006e00e
Exception Code: c0000409
Exception Data: 0000000000000007
OS Version: 6.3.9600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 26f2
Additional Information 2: 26f21930f0249856b546f9af76e796e6
Additional Information 3: 827a
Additional Information 4: 827a1ee6573684cbf40f4d0cb69dbddb

This appears on the window as it stops working upon startup.
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07-19-2023, 03:11 AM
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RE: Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
Windows 8.1 reached end-of-life six months ago. That means no more security updates. It also means there is no reason for applications to ensure they run on it. Please for the good of everyone take the free upgrade to a supported version of Windows.
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07-19-2023, 06:04 AM
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(07-19-2023 03:11 AM)Eric Rechlin Wrote:  Windows 8.1 reached end-of-life six months ago. That means no more security updates. It also means there is no reason for applications to ensure they run on it. Please for the good of everyone take the free upgrade to a supported version of Windows.

I will definitely change over to windows 10 soon, but can't at the minute.

The Virtual Calculator however, hasn't worked since 2020 updates.
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07-19-2023, 05:20 PM
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(07-19-2023 06:04 AM)matalog Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 03:11 AM)Eric Rechlin Wrote:  Windows 8.1 reached end-of-life six months ago.

I will definitely change over to windows 10 soon, but can't at the minute.

The Virtual Calculator however, hasn't worked since 2020 updates.

Best guess is the '2018' versions requirements differ than '2020'. Next guess is your W8.1 install is damaged.

If you have many hours to burn:
-Make a bare-metal backup and retest the Prime application behavior from your system restore points.

Echoing Eric's words, 8.1 is EOL. Since mid July of 2015 the upgrade to W10 is free for W7 and W8 users.
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07-21-2023, 10:31 PM
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RE: Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
It seems to be ironic that many who use HP calculators who use old HP calculators
tolerate the need for the prime and other emulators to use the latest and greatest
development tools. There are valid reasons to be running 8.1. Many applications will
run on windows 8.1. As an example, there are may applications posted on
portableapps.com which even run on win xp. Why do we want practical working
computers to be made obsolete -- why do we want calculators to be made
obsolete?

Just something to think about.
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07-22-2023, 03:04 AM
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(07-21-2023 10:31 PM)Liamtoh Resu Wrote:  As an example, there are may applications posted on portableapps.com which even run on win xp.

Agreed.
Quote: Why do we want practical working computers to be made obsolete -- why do we want calculators to be made obsolete?

Unsure who "we" is and are posting in this thread. HPE, A, MSFT, INTC, AAPL, AMD, etc, etc willingly obsolete.

The wise treat EOL OSs as a security threat. Point being is run EOL OSs in a sandbox (AKA, properly secured environment) and then do so for as long as you like.
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07-22-2023, 10:49 AM
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RE: Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
(07-18-2023 07:14 PM)matalog Wrote:  I cannot seem to get any version later than (2018 10 16) to work on my Windows 8.1 machine.

Are there any particular requirements that the program has, maybe I need to install something first?

See https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-17...#pid148883
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07-22-2023, 12:25 PM
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(07-21-2023 10:31 PM)Liamtoh Resu Wrote:  It seems to be ironic that many who use HP calculators who use old HP calculators
tolerate the need for the prime and other emulators to use the latest and greatest
development tools.

As a user of old calculators I’m not surprised to have to use old emulators on old systems Wink
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07-22-2023, 03:26 PM
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RE: Virtual Calculator Program 64 bit Windows Problem
I'd like to thank Wes for the "v8" moment.

I found some info about the qt6 support cycle at:

https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/supported-platforms.html

It explains about the various devices that can support qt6. which apparently used
by the prime emulator.

I did a fresh win10 install and the connectivity kit and emulator. My prime was
updated to the April 2023 version firmware.

Thanks
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