Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
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05-02-2024, 12:36 AM
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Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
I have uploaded 4 digital micro-cassettes of programs for the 71 to LIF compatible .DAT files with my PIL-Box.
The tapes are labeled as follows: 71Backup G11-200 G12-100 G13-100 The G12 tape failed partway through with a medium error and there was a 5th tape labeled G14-100 that the directory was unreadable. These we all made in or around 1982 in conjunction with the CHiP club. I believe most of these were made for me by Mr. George A Duba (thank you Al). I have attached the .DAT files. I hope there is something new here that hasn't been archived before. Please see the upload of my 41 tapes in another message. |
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05-02-2024, 01:59 AM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
1st - Thanks for sharing these with the community.
The tape that failed partway through and the one with 'bad' directory are probably actually intact, but the pressure pad (behind the tape in the center gap of the tape face, to hold the tape tightly against the read/write head) has come loose; that failure mode makes the tapes act as if they are unreadable. Repairing this is pretty straightforward and restores tapes to working condition nearly every time. The process is a bit fiddly and you need to be careful of the small parts, but it's not difficult. It's been discussed numerous times, this thread has a lot of links and info: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-21419.html --Bob Prosperi |
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05-02-2024, 02:16 AM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-02-2024 01:59 AM)rprosperi Wrote: 1st - Thanks for sharing these with the community. Rob, That was the first thing I checked and the pad is fine on both of them. Thank you, Mike |
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05-02-2024, 12:12 PM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-02-2024 02:16 AM)BitWiz Wrote: That was the first thing I checked and the pad is fine on both of them. I'd still give it a try. I've have several which "looked" fine, but weren't. When I was fixing a batch of about 10 of these, I also replaced the pad on 3 others that looked OK but failed and had been set aside, just in case... and 3 out of 3 worked after. May not be worth your time if they aren't of known contents that you really want/need, but thought I'd mention they can look ok but not actually be so. --Bob Prosperi |
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05-02-2024, 12:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-02-2024 12:16 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-02-2024 12:36 AM)BitWiz Wrote: The G12 tape failed partway through with a medium error and there was a 5th tape labeled G14-100 that the directory was unreadable.Hello Mike, The following is a small HP-71B BASIC program that I have written for Mark Power three years ago. Mark needed to dump his mini-cassette content in a raw format, maybe this will help recover your failed tape content. Sylvain View in a printable mode Code: 10 ! TAPEDUMP @Copyrights 2021, Sylvain Cote Sylvain Côté |
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05-02-2024, 03:08 PM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
Sylvain,
Thank you. I will give that a try. One dumb question. How do I get that file into the 71B. How do I convert it to a file I can write with lifput? I'm sorry for the dumb question. Thank you, Mike |
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05-02-2024, 03:49 PM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-02-2024 03:08 PM)BitWiz Wrote: One dumb question. How do I get that file into the 71B.I will give you a LIF file tonight. Sylvain Côté |
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05-03-2024, 01:38 AM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-02-2024 03:08 PM)BitWiz Wrote: One dumb question. How do I get that file into the 71B. Sylvain's method is faster and better of course, but the old adage about teaching a man to fish is still true. 1. Use alifhdr.exe to prepend a lif header on your source file (copied from his post, saved to a text file): > alifhdr SOURCE.TXT SOURCE.lif /T 2. On IL-Per, point the DOSLINK IN box to the new SOURCE.lif 3. Copy the file via PIL-Box/IL-Per COPY :DOSLINK to FILENAME:MAIN 4. TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC --Bob Prosperi |
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05-03-2024, 02:06 AM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-03-2024 01:38 AM)rprosperi Wrote:(05-02-2024 03:08 PM)BitWiz Wrote: One dumb question. How do I get that file into the 71B. Rob, Thank you. Two questions 1. Why use DOSLINK rather than the 9114B or HDRIVE. I guess I don't understand the difference between DOSLINK and 9114B. 2. Is TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC an HP-71 command? Thank you all for your patience with me, Mike |
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05-03-2024, 11:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2024 11:33 AM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
Sorry, something happened last night and I could not make the file.
(05-03-2024 01:38 AM)rprosperi Wrote:(05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote: One dumb question. How do I get that file into the 71B.Sylvain's method is faster and better of course, but the old adage about teaching a man to fish is still true. Robert's method is way better. (05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote: 1. Why use DOSLINK rather than the 9114B or HDRIVE. I guess I don't understand the difference between DOSLINK and 9114B. Taken from Jean-François Garnier HP-IL Resource and Emu71/DOS web pages.
(05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote:(05-03-2024 01:38 AM)rprosperi Wrote: 4. TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC2. Is TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC an HP-71 command? Yes!
Sylvain Côté |
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05-03-2024, 07:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2024 07:39 PM by Dave Frederickson.)
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote: 1. Why use DOSLINK rather than the 9114B or HDRIVE. I guess I don't understand the difference between DOSLINK and 9114B. DOSLINK works with the DOS file system. HP9114B: and HDRIVE: work with LIF disc and tape images. (05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote: 2. Is TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC an HP-71 command? The format of the command is TRANSFORM filename INTO BASIC. |
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05-03-2024, 09:01 PM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
TRANSFORM is an HP71 command that turns a text file into a BASIC file. Or vice-versa.
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05-04-2024, 03:19 AM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
One way of doing this ...
Using lifutils
Sylvain Côté |
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05-04-2024, 01:04 PM
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RE: Old HP-71 tapes from the 80's uploaded
(05-03-2024 07:27 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:(05-03-2024 02:06 AM)BitWiz Wrote: 2. Is TRANSFORM FILENAME TO BASIC an HP-71 command? Thanks Dave, good catch!! Sorry for the bad tip... --Bob Prosperi |
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