NoVRAM / Clonix - Windows XP and a driver, ClonixCfgWin, questions

[Gene]

Moving my NoVRAM rom transfer to a new (old) WinXP box and have a couple of questions.

1) The ClonixCfgWin application (clonix windows configuration program) will not open. The error message says it is unable to find a version of the runtime to run the application.

Question: Does that mean a version of Microsoft .NET Framework needs to be downloaded and installed?


2) Upon plugging in the USB NoVRAM burner for the first time, no driver was found. What driver is needed and does anyone have a link to it ?

thanks in advance.
Gene

[Sylvain Cote]

(02-16-2015 09:09 PM)Gene Wrote:  Question: Does that mean a version of Microsoft .NET Framework needs to be downloaded and installed?

Yes. Here the edited manifest file content
// Metadata version: v2.0.50727
.assembly extern mscorlib { .ver 2:0:0:0 }
.assembly extern Microsoft.VisualBasic { .ver 8:0:0:0 }
.assembly extern System.Windows.Forms { .ver 2:0:0:0 }
.assembly extern System.Xml.Linq {.ver 3:5:0:0 }
.assembly extern System { .ver 2:0:0:0 }
.assembly extern System.Core { .ver 3:5:0:0 }
.assembly extern System.Drawing { .ver 2:0:0:0 }
.assembly ClonixConfig { .ver 1:0:0:0 }
.module ClonixConfig.exe
.imagebase 0x00400000
.file alignment 0x00000200
.stackreserve 0x00100000
.subsystem 0x0002 // WINDOWS_GUI
.corflags 0x00000001 // ILONLY

(02-16-2015 09:09 PM)Gene Wrote:  2) What driver is needed and does anyone have a link to it ?

Yes, but I do not remember if it's an FTDI or a Prolific USB2Serial interface.
I will check when I return home tonight around 22h00 (EST UTC-5h).

Best regards,

Sylvain

[Mark Hardman]

(02-16-2015 09:09 PM)Gene Wrote:  Moving my NoVRAM rom transfer to a new (old) WinXP box and have a couple of questions.

thanks in advance.
Gene

You must have had ClonixCfgWin working at some point. The Clonix-41 that you sold me had CCD OSX configured.

That module's setup was perfect and I never dared tinker with it.

[Dave Frederickson]

(02-16-2015 09:09 PM)Gene Wrote:  What driver is needed and does anyone have a link to it ?

The drivers are in the USB_Drivers folder of Latest SW Update 071113 (ClonixConfig v.4.1, 12 pages).

[Gene]

Found the drivers and installed them.

Downloaded and installed .NET framework 4.0 (4.5 won't install in XP). Rebooted XP.

Launched the ClonixConfig.exe program and still get the "Unable to find a version of the runtime to run this application" message.


Running XP SP3.

[rprosperi]

(02-16-2015 11:25 PM)Gene Wrote:  Found the drivers and installed them.

Downloaded and installed .NET framework 4.0 (4.5 won't install in XP). Rebooted XP.

Launched the ClonixConfig.exe program and still get the "Unable to find a version of the runtime to run this application" message.


Running XP SP3.

It could be looking for VB runtime libraries. Are these installed?
Here is a link to the VB 6.0 Runtime Libs, though the manifest Sylvain posted implies VB 8.0 was used.

Can't hurt to install and see if it does the trick. If not, simply remove it.
Edited to add download link

[Gene]

Ok, changed to a Win7 laptop. Driver installs. The Windows ClonixConfig.exe file runs.

However, I get an error trying to program the NoVRAM.

Pictures show how I set up the configurator and the error I get.

?

Config:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1002...icture.JPG


Error:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1002...0error.JPG

[Sylvain Cote]

(02-17-2015 03:55 PM)Gene Wrote:  Ok, changed to a Win7 laptop. Driver installs. The Windows ClonixConfig.exe file runs.

However, I get an error trying to program the NoVRAM.

Pictures show how I set up the configurator and the error I get.

?

Config:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1002...icture.JPG


Error:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1002...0error.JPG

Hello Gene,

First, the two PPC images are configured to be in the same port.
In your configuration ...
PPCAPS1 should be in port C (rom is configured for lower port)
PPCAPS2 should be in port D (rom is configured for upper port)
BOOKAPS should be in port E

Second, I would check where the USB-to-Serial port has been assigned
by starting the driver manager and looking at the serial port number.

Sorry for not helping completely, I have very little time right now.

Sylvain

[Geoff Quickfall]

Okay, I am missing something. Is it a NoVram or a Nov64?

If NoVram then wrong settings on pic one. Must admit, I am watching this posting as I want to play with my NoVram on a Windows,8 machine.

Geoff

[Gene]

Oops. NoVRAM 64.

Sylvain, quite right. Oops. I will retry, but not sure that is causing this error. Will repost soon.

I'm frustrated because with an old XP machine, I **have** successfully done this before.

[Gene]

Ok, I'm somewhat talking to myself here :-) but that's ok.

Got Win7 to talk to the USB board.

Clonixconfig.exe when set up as a Nov-64 module puts the four Hepax-1D images in pages 1-x through 4-x, leaving 1-C through 1-F open.

If I simply choose FIN1B, a 4k rom and place it in 1-C and do nothing else, when I click proceed I get 20 errors and 5319 lines assembled.

Ideas here?

I had tried bookaps, and ppcapps1 and ppcapps2, but I'm having trouble even getting it to burn a 4K image.

Argh!

[Sylvain Cote]

(02-18-2015 01:06 AM)Gene Wrote:  Ideas here?

Hello Gene,
I just came back from the office, I am starting my Win7Pro VM and I will test this.
Sylvain

[Sylvain Cote]

Using Process Monitor from the SysInternals tools I get this file list.
I have v4.2 of ClonixConfig and it's v4.1 on the web site, strange.
Anyway I have started v4.1 and I have the same file list as of v4.2.
It means that ClonixConfig need Microsoft.NET v2.0 to work.
If you install Microsoft.NET v2.0 on your XP machine it should work.

Now NoV-64 testing ...

[Dave Frederickson]

(02-18-2015 02:08 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  I have v4.2 of ClonixConfig and it's v4.1 on the web site, strange.

Diego released v4.2 last June, but hasn't updated his website.

[Sylvain Cote]

(02-17-2015 03:55 PM)Gene Wrote:  Error: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1002...0error.JPG

OK I got the same error on Win7 Pro, mmmm

1) disconnecting the USB programmer, shut-down vm, closing Parallels Desktop (just in case)
2) restarting everything ... (Parallels, Windows, ClonixConfig v4.1)
3) connecting the USB programmer, selecting NoV-64, plain config, proceed, same problem ...
4) changing USB cable, nop, still not working
5) deleting driver, reinstalling driver, Yes! it's working now 8-)

Now, I must show you the steps on how to REALLY delete a windows driver from the system, follow me ...

1) close the PIC programmer and the ClonixConfig applications

2) We must configure the Device Manager hidden driver viewer option

a) Control Panel -> System -> Advanced System Settings
b) System Properties dialog: -> tab: Advanced -> button: Environment variables
c) Environment Variables dialog: box: System Variables -> button: New ...
d) New System Variable dialog:
Variable name: DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES
Variable value: 1
press OK (close New System Variable dialog)
press OK (close Environment variables dialog)
press OK (close System Properties dialog)

3) Starting Device Manager and activating the hidden driver viewer option

a) Control Panel -> Device Manager
b) menu -> View -> Show Hidden Devices
(this works only because we have set the environment variable in the previous step)
c) explode the Port(COM & LPT) section
-> you should see several grayed devices (driver for unconnected devices)
-> you should see one or several "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" entries.
d) we must remove all "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" entries except one
-> for each entry except the last one
-> select a "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" line
-> right mouse button, then select Uninstall,
-> show the "Confirm Device Uninstall" dialog, uncheck the "Delete the driver ..." option and the press OK
e) we must remove the last "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" entry and the physical driver from the system
-> for last entry
-> select a "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" line
-> right mouse button, then select Uninstall,
-> show the "Confirm Device Uninstall" dialog, CHECK the "Delete the driver ..." option and the press OK
-> at this point we have remove all trace of the original driver
f) menu -> action -> Scan for hardware changes
-> this will force windows to rediscover the Prolific device, download the latests driver and install it
g) explode the Port(COM & LPT) section
-> you should see the "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port (COMx)"

4) restart ClonixConfig and follow the normal procedure and it should work as before ...

Sylvain

[Sylvain Cote]

(02-18-2015 01:06 AM)Gene Wrote:  Clonixconfig.exe when set up as a Nov-64 module puts the four Hepax-1D images in pages 1-x through 4-x, leaving 1-C through 1-F open.

Bad news for you, I know it does not help but it's working on my side ;-)

(02-18-2015 01:06 AM)Gene Wrote:  If I simply choose FIN1B, a 4k rom and place it in 1-C and do nothing else, when I click proceed I get 20 errors and 5319 lines assembled.

I do the same with "Financ1B", press proceed and I get a Assembly Successful.

Well I am not able to reproduce your problem. mmmm
Have you tried running it with Administrator Privilege ?

Sylvain

[Gene]

Sylvain, thank you for the detailed help.

I followed all of the instructions to uninstall and reinstall the driver in Win7. This worked fine.

Using clonixconfig.exe I still get 5319 lines assembled when I have chosen fin1b or bookaps as the rom.

That generates 20 errors so I'm still somewhat in a fix.

I will download the other mentioned novram software update from this past summer and try later.

[Dave Frederickson]

As FIN1B is being loaded, rather than Financ1B, are you trying to load rom files not in the default working directory? Per the manual, "... you must select .ROM files in the default working directory; otherwise the configuration utility will not load the file into your module."