Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
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06-22-2021, 02:21 AM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-22-2021 01:35 AM)Neve Wrote: Is there a command I can use to check what version my CL is?The procedure should work with any hardware version. I any case, you can find the information in the 41CL Extreme Functions Manual page 36. 41CL Extreme Functions - function 41CL reads board Flash size/organization and return an ALPHA message, here is the hardware version table Code: Version Device Flash ALPHA Sylvain |
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06-22-2021, 08:38 AM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-22-2021 02:21 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(06-22-2021 01:35 AM)Neve Wrote: Is there a command I can use to check what version my CL is?The procedure should work with any hardware version. Awesome. Mine returns 41CL 8MB TOP Thanks again Sylvain. I will be testing the previous procedure today. Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-22-2021, 09:39 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
Sylvain,
I have a V5. The procedure worked like a charm. Thank you so much. Do you think it would be possible to reverse it? Let’s say I write a new program on Genesis and want to transfer it to the CL, would that be possible? Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-22-2021, 09:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2021 09:44 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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06-23-2021, 01:33 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-23-2021 12:16 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
So ... this is the procedure to transfer a program from Genesis-41 to a 41CL using RAMBox32 and the serial port.
Genesis-41 - Configuration Mode: Code: Show context menu → Select Memory Layout Managers -> ROM Layout ... Genesis-41 - Emulator Mode: Code: 3 // QROM XROM:3 (Y register) Genesis-41 - Configuration Mode: Code: Show context menu → Select Memory Layout Managers -> ROM Layout ... On your 41CL Code: MMUDIS // MMU Disable On your Mac, from the command line type: Code: cd {to-your-working-directory} [return] You should see: Code: HH:MM:SS --upload [fileName: mp3c.rom] [portName: /dev/tty.usbserial4] [baudRate: 4800] On your 41CL and within 5 seconds of seeing the sleeping message: Code: [ALPHA] // Press ALPHA to complete YIMP command and start receiving the ROM image You see, I told you, easy! ... well almost Sylvain Note 1: the above procedure was successfully tested with a 41CL v5, macOS Big Sur (11.4) and Java 11 (OpenJDK Runtime Environment AdoptOpenJDK, build 11.0.7+10) Note 2: to see all the steps in one block, click on the "View a Printable Version" at the bottom of this page. Edit 1: added {to-your-working-directory} tags Edit 2: typos |
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06-23-2021, 01:17 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
Thanks again Sylvain,
I’ll try that and will report back. CL V5, MacOS Catalina 10.15.7 Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-23-2021, 01:19 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
I’m glad I resurrected this old post.
Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 01:39 PM
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06-24-2021, 02:10 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 01:39 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Small modifications have been made to post 19 (41CL to Genesis-41) and to post 25 (Genesis-41 to 41CL) OK, I’ll look and reprint them. Thanks again Sylvain. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 02:16 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
A few quick questions though:
1- The programs do not go into RAM apparently (PRMG still shows 219) 2- Maybe it’s my computer, but I canuse en to be able to map any of the modifier key on my keyboard (SHIFT, CTRL, Etc…) 3- Where can I find a program that extracts .MOD files to .ROM files? I’ve looked everywhere. And the manual is not clickable. 4- I can seem to be able to transfer the “Byte Grabber”, that I have on a card, to Genesis using the above method. Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 02:39 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
Warren's MODFile utility will examine and extract .rom files from a .mod file, however it is a windows program only. But the source is also available, so you might be able to get it working on macOS, in which case, please share it with both Warren and here for other Mac users.
http://www.ho41.org/LibView.cfm?Command=View&ItemID=608 Copy the above url, paste it to your address bar, change 'ho41' to 'hp41' and proceed. --Bob Prosperi |
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06-24-2021, 02:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2021 02:57 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 1- The programs do not go into RAM apparently (PRMG still shows 219) No, there are located in an Application ROM, you can copy them back into main RAM with the COPY function. Look in HP-41C Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide, pages 260 and 261, COPY function description. (06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 2- Maybe it’s my computer, but I canuse en to be able to map any of the modifier key on my keyboard (SHIFT, CTRL, Etc…) I am not following you, could you please rephrase. (06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 3- Where can I find a program that extracts .MOD files to .ROM files? I’ve looked everywhere. And the manual is not clickable. Download and install Joachim Siebold's LIF utilities. It contains lots of command line binaries that can convert multiple file formats. (see the online manual HERE) Download and install Meindert Kuipers's MLDL2000 Windows program. This is a very easy to use program that is able to create, read, extract and update MOD file. If you can get a copy of Windows, VMware Fusion Player is now free for home use. You will have to create an account to get your free license though. I would suggest that you read the reference section of my Diego Díaz Clonix & NoV Module, HPCC 2020 Presentation. It covers HP-41 RAM, ROM, file types and other stuff as well. (06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 4- I can seem to be able to transfer the “Byte Grabber”, that I have on a card, to Genesis using the above method. I am not sure I follow you here, the phrase say "you can" but the way I read it suggest that "you cannot", could you please rephrase. Sylvain |
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06-24-2021, 03:50 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 02:39 PM)rprosperi Wrote: Warren's MODFile utility will examine and extract .rom files from a .mod file, however it is a windows program only. But the source is also available, so you might be able to get it working on macOS, in which case, please share it with both Warren and here for other Mac users. Thank you very much. I may try to compile it if I find the time. Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 03:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2021 03:58 PM by Neve.)
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 2- Maybe it’s my computer, but I canuse en to be able to map any of the modifier key on my keyboard (SHIFT, CTRL, Etc…) I mean that when I use the keyboard mapper that comes with Genesis, those Mac keyboard keys do not register at all. Let’s say I wan to to map the “shift” key of the Genesis-41 to the “shift” key of the Mac keyboard, that key is not registering at all. None of the modifier keys on the Mac Keyboard are registering with the keyboard mapper. By “modifier keys” I mean SHIFT, CTRL, COMMAND, etc… Am I clear enough? (06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 4- I can seem to be able to transfer the “Byte Grabber”, that I have on a card, to Genesis using the above method. Typo. 4- I CAN’T seem to be able to transfer the “Byte Grabber”, that I have on a card, to Genesis using the above method. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 05:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2021 05:05 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 03:56 PM)Neve Wrote:Crystal clear!(06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: I am not following you, could you please rephrase.I mean that when I use the keyboard mapper that comes with Genesis, those Mac keyboard keys do not register at all. Modifier keys are not supported by the application. Keyboard mapping is kept in this file: /Applications/Genesis-41.app/Contents/Resources/keyboard.xml To go back to default mapping, exit the application, delete keyboard.xml and restart the application, upon restart Genesis-41 will create the file if missing. (06-24-2021 03:56 PM)Neve Wrote:HP-41 user defined keys are kept in an internal buffer and active mapped keys are kept in two status registers, so they are not part of program space.(06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: I am not sure I follow you here, the phrase say "you can" but the way I read it suggest that "you cannot", could you please rephrase.Typo. You ask for programs transfer not for status registers and/or internal buffers transfer, so I gave you program transfer. Sylvain |
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06-24-2021, 05:11 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
It’s very clear Sylvain. Thank you.
I realized my question about BYTE GRABBER was dumb after I posted it. You’re absolutely right. Too bad about the modifier keys though. Thanks again. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-24-2021, 05:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2021 05:51 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
I just looked in the RAMBox32 manual and there is a way to transfer system buffer and/or user defined keys to/from RAM from/to QROM.
The functions related to user defined keys (UDK) are: KEYAS? , CRFLKEY , LDKEY and GTKEY. RAM to QROM procedure: Code: KEYAS? // find the number of registers used by the UDK internal buffer QROM to RAM procedure: Code: "MYKEYS" // UDK filename in QROM Sylvain PS: the RAMBox 32 manual is available on the same site that Robert gave you in post #31 edit 1: typos edit 2: PS |
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06-24-2021, 10:39 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: ...<snip>... I never realized the lifmod utility could extract .rom images from a .mod file, in addition to just listing contents. Thanks for the tip/reminder. This set of utilities is an amazingly complete set of tools for using the 41/71/75, if you dabble even only a little bit with these machines it's well worth getting these (and apparently reading the docs better than I did) --Bob Prosperi |
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06-26-2021, 08:02 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 05:32 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: I just looked in the RAMBox32 manual and there is a way to transfer system buffer and/or user defined keys to/from RAM from/to QROM. Thank you again Sylvain. I’ll see how this works for me. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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06-26-2021, 08:05 PM
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RE: Genesis 41 Emulator by Laurent Spohr
(06-24-2021 02:53 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(06-24-2021 02:16 PM)Neve Wrote: 1- The programs do not go into RAM apparently (PRMG still shows 219) Will look at the manual. It’s been quite a while since I’ve read it…. I have Parallels Desktop, so I’m good. I’m gonna have to learn these new programs. But so far MODfile has been good. As always, THANK YOU ALL! Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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