Forum Thumbs Up!
12-13-2013, 04:17 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2013 07:36 PM by Howard Owen.)
Post: #1
 Howard Owen Member Posts: 86 Joined: Dec 2013
Forum Thumbs Up!
Where is the proper place to talk about the forum software?

I love this software. Other than losing the comfort level I've achieved with the original software over the years, I'm happy to make the change. Things like embedded $$\large\LaTeX$$ will enrich discussions. I'm most interested to see how the various forum cultures will adapt to the new platform. I predict there will be more questions like the one I posed above. I'm very optimistic this change will result in a more interesting forum. Kudos!
12-13-2013, 11:00 AM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2013 01:03 PM by Nick_S.)
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 Nick_S Junior Member Posts: 11 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-13-2013 04:17 AM)Howard Owen Wrote:  Things like embedded $$\LaTeX$$ will enrich discussions.

I know LaTeX well, how does one include some in-line formatted material like an equation, in the present context? For example:
$\large s= \sqrt{\frac{1}{N-1} \sum_{i=1}^N (x_i - \overline{x})^2}$.

Edit: I just found the LaTeX thread in the other part of the forum "HP Forums/Not HP Calculators/Test forum" and it seem one has to surround the above commands by \ [ my-equation \ ] or \ ( my-inline-equation \ ) with no spaces, replacing the dollar symbols:

$$\large s = \sqrt{\frac{1}{N-1} \sum_{i=1}^N (x_i - \overline{x})^2}$$.

Note: I had to enable javascript in the Firefox add on NoScript, which I have installed in my Web browser, and then refresh the page after edits to see the formula typeset correctly.

Thanks to the forum organiser, this is great :-)

Nick
12-13-2013, 06:29 PM
Post: #3
 Norman Dziedzic Unregistered
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-13-2013 04:17 AM)Howard Owen Wrote:  Where is the proper place to talk about the forum software?

I love this software. Other than losing the comfort level I've achieved with the original software over the years, I'm happy to make the change. Things like embedded $$\LaTeX$$ will enrich discussions. I'm most interested to see how the various forum cultures will adapt to the new platform. I predict there will be more questions like the one I posed above. I'm very optimistic this change will result in a more interesting forum. Kudos!

I was at school when $$\LaTeX$$ first came out and used to have a book on it. Sounds like a great reason to re-learn it.

Very Cool!
12-14-2013, 06:51 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2013 06:51 AM by Les Bell.)
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 Les Bell Member Posts: 188 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-13-2013 04:17 AM)Howard Owen Wrote:  I love this software. Other than losing the comfort level I've achieved with the original software over the years, I'm happy to make the change. Things like embedded $$\LaTeX$$ will enrich discussions. I'm most interested to see how the various forum cultures will adapt to the new platform. I predict there will be more questions like the one I posed above. I'm very optimistic this change will result in a more interesting forum. Kudos!

There was a rather nice simplicity to the old forum - clean, fast to load, very straightforward. But just the ability to use $$\LaTeX$$ - let alone all the other new features - makes the new forum an attractive option. It should also mean less maintenance work for Dave, with any luck!

--- Les
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]
12-14-2013, 07:52 AM
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 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,682 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 06:51 AM)Les Bell Wrote:  There was a rather nice simplicity to the old forum - clean, fast to load, very straightforward. But just the ability to use $$\LaTeX$$ - let alone all the other new features - makes the new forum an attractive option. It should also mean less maintenance work for Dave, with any luck!

I loved the old forum for the very same reasons.
I am only getting my feet wet with the new one: much more possibilities to express ourselves, for sure; something's missing or I can't find it.

Somehow I know I will miss what we were used to, though... :'(

Greetings,
Massimo

-+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong
12-14-2013, 08:31 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2013 08:31 AM by Didier Lachieze.)
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 Didier Lachieze Senior Member Posts: 1,649 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 07:52 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Somehow I know I will miss what we were used to, though... :'(

It's seems there's a need for an old forums museum forum...
12-14-2013, 05:57 PM
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 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,682 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 08:31 AM)Didier Lachieze Wrote:  It's seems there's a need for an old forums museum forum...

Excellent idea!

Greetings,
Massimo

-+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong
12-14-2013, 07:54 PM
Post: #8
 Howard Owen Member Posts: 86 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-13-2013 11:00 AM)Nick_S Wrote:  $$\large s = \sqrt{\frac{1}{N-1} \sum_{i=1}^N (x_i - \overline{x})^2}$$.

If you reply (with the "Quote" button) you'll see the markup in the quoted text. If this feature gets used a lot, it might be a good way to learn $$\large\LaTeX$$, with examples close at hand.

(12-13-2013 11:00 AM)Nick_S Wrote:  Thanks to the forum organiser, this is great :-)

+1

BTW, I $$\textit hate$$ the way that LaTex logo appears. It's designed to show off LaTex's typesetting capabilities, but it ignores the reason $$\TeX$$ was invented: to make beautiful documents.
12-14-2013, 11:55 PM
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 Les Bell Member Posts: 188 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 07:54 PM)Howard Owen Wrote:  If you reply (with the "Quote" button) you'll see the markup in the quoted text. If this feature gets used a lot, it might be a good way to learn $$\large\LaTeX$$, with examples close at hand.

There are now several $$\LaTeX$$ editors/compilers in the cloud, so there's nothing to install locally. I've tinkered a bit with http://www.writelatex.com, although I use WinEdt and MikTex 2.9 for my thesis, due to the number of files involved. WriteLatex has a rather neat interactive side-by-side presentation of the source and compiled document which makes experimenting very easy.

--- Les
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]
12-15-2013, 07:43 AM
Post: #10
 Howard Owen Member Posts: 86 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 11:55 PM)Les Bell Wrote:  There are now several $$\LaTeX$$ editors/compilers in the cloud$$\ldots$$

Rats! I just burned 2.5 GB downloading and installing MacTeX. I don't actually regret it. I get a good ol' command line driven TeX just like in the old days.
12-15-2013, 05:12 PM
Post: #11
 Howard Owen Member Posts: 86 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
While I was uncertain at the start, at this point I don't have to wonder whether this thread is off topic or not.

Mods, is there a way to move threads? Where should this sort of post go?
12-15-2013, 09:13 PM
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 walter b On Vacation Posts: 1,957 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-15-2013 05:12 PM)Howard Owen Wrote:  Mods, is there a way to move threads? Where should this sort of post go?
To "Not remotely HP Calculators", where else?

d;-)

BTW, Dave seems to be very optimistic about the Prime: A whole forum partition for a single buggy HP calc -- I wonder when the HP-41 community will demand something similar for a product of higher quality.
12-15-2013, 11:13 PM
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 Les Bell Member Posts: 188 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-15-2013 09:13 PM)walter b Wrote:  BTW, Dave seems to be very optimistic about the Prime: A whole forum partition for a single buggy HP calc -- I wonder when the HP-41 community will demand something similar for a product of higher quality.

+1, oh yeah, well said, that man! As it happens, I was working with my 41's yesterday, documenting some programs I'd written and forgotten about months ago. I was also tinkering with the various Voyagers (comparing ways of writing simple loops on the 11C, 12C and 16C) and was reminded how straightforward, well-organized and downright productive the 41 was.

And since I also have an idle 30b, waiting for conversion to a WP-34S, I decided to take a look at what it could do. Holy moly, what a mess! There's power there, all right, but it's disorganized, awkward and cumbersome - especially for programming - compared with the clean design of the 41.

I think I need to stock up on some more 41's - they're that good.

--- Les
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]
12-16-2013, 03:53 PM
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 Egan Ford Member Posts: 172 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-14-2013 11:55 PM)Les Bell Wrote:  There are now several $$\LaTeX$$ editors/compilers in the cloud, so there's nothing to install locally. I've tinkered a bit with http://www.writelatex.com, although I use WinEdt and MikTex 2.9 for my thesis, due to the number of files involved. WriteLatex has a rather neat interactive side-by-side presentation of the source and compiled document which makes experimenting very easy.

I've been using http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php for sometime. Easy and provides a GIF option.
12-16-2013, 05:05 PM
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 Geoff Quickfall Senior Member Posts: 823 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
Great new forum.

Nice to get the pesky Prime postings into there own subject header.

I use latex gloves when working on my calcs :-)

Geoff
12-16-2013, 11:48 PM
Post: #16
 Les Bell Member Posts: 188 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
(12-16-2013 03:53 PM)Egan Ford Wrote:  I've been using http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php for sometime. Easy and provides a GIF option.

The CodeCogs editor was handy, back in the day, especially for popping the occasional equation, as a GIF, into the old forum. But the cloud editors like WriteLatex provide a complete $$\LaTeX$$ editor and compiler, rather than just a math environment - people actually write entire theses with them. I find WriteLatex handy when I'm in a coffee shop with just my ChromeBook and want to make notes which I'll then copy into my work later.

--- Les
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]
12-19-2013, 12:03 AM
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 Mike T. Member Posts: 130 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
First impressions - I like it!

I had to create a new account as my old credentials didn't exist but I'm cool with that, just hope I can remember the password!

A big improvement (and the old version wasn't bad either)..

Thanks

Mike T.

Mike T.

HP21, HP25, HP32E, HP33C, HP34C, HP10C, HP11C, HP12C, HP32S, HP22S
01-01-2014, 11:51 AM
Post: #18
 Curlytop Junior Member Posts: 20 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: Forum Thumbs Up!
Lovely looking forum this. Better than the old one with its long highly indented chains of plain-text posts.

I was "Paul Townsend (UK)" on the old forum but now I have taken up the username I also use on other fora along with an appropriate avatar. (That bubbly blond cutie is me, or at least what I looked like at about 3 years old.)

It's worth giving the Prime its own branch of the forum, since in view of its newness and still-buggy state there are likely to be lots of posts about it. One that bugs me is why it can't do Zeta() of a positive odd integer >1. No probs with Zeta(3) on the WP-34S!
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