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Swiss Micros makes HP 'act-alikes' - programmable
10-02-2018, 12:13 AM
Post: #61
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(10-01-2018 03:16 AM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

Not in my corner, and there's over 4,600,000 of us. Heck, 24,000,000 in Australia too. 49,000,000 Zedders in Canada too. 66,000,000 in the U.K... dead, hm? I don't think so. By my rough count, that makes nearly a hundred and fifty million Zedders, just in the populations I've mentioned. I think the United States covers about three hundred and twenty five million as of 2017.

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10-02-2018, 06:35 AM
Post: #62
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I think Thomas was referring to this: ;)




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10-02-2018, 07:22 AM
Post: #63
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(10-02-2018 12:13 AM)brickviking Wrote:  
(10-01-2018 03:16 AM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

Not in my corner, and there's over 4,600,000 of us. Heck, 24,000,000 in Australia too. 49,000,000 Zedders in Canada too. 66,000,000 in the U.K... dead, hm? I don't think so. By my rough count, that makes nearly a hundred and fifty million Zedders, just in the populations I've mentioned. I think the United States covers about three hundred and twenty five million as of 2017.

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(10-02-2018 06:35 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  I think Thomas was referring to this: Wink




Yep, that might be.
Though, Zed/Zet is definetly not dead outside US. India uses Zed and most of the languages in Europe uses "Zet".
India has ~1E9 inhabitants. Europe ~7,5E8 inhabitants. I'm pretty sure that outnumbers US by just over a tad Wink

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10-02-2018, 12:16 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2018 12:23 PM by Thomas Okken.)
Post: #64
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(10-02-2018 06:35 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  I think Thomas was referring to this: Wink

Yes, I thought a silly little pop culture reference was appropriate there. Smile

The cultural influence of the U.S. on the rest of the world is huge, but I don't think even it is sufficient to convince the great majority of humans to switch from Zed to Zee.

Side note: I was very confused on one of my first road trips here and saw a sign that said "Tappan Zee Bridge." That made no sense no matter how I tried to parse it! It turns out I should have looked for the solution closer to home: that "Zee" is the Dutch word for "sea," because the Hudson at that point is very wide, prompting some Dutch explorer to call that stretch a sea (naming it after the local Tappan tribe). The more you know!
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10-28-2018, 07:09 PM (This post was last modified: 10-28-2018 07:11 PM by edryer.)
Post: #65
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I own a DM-15L (and DM-16L) as well as an HP-35s. I use the HP35s for Algebra and Trigonometry and math up to about College level, and the 15L for College Level math (first year Complex Numbers/Vectors/Matrices) - by the way I am an older student (I received my bachelors degree back in 1997).

I would really like to just use the DM-15L for everything (the ability to load/save state and develop programs offline is fantastic esp. with 999 steps!) but am worried about keyboard durability.

Has the keyboard been designed for heavy use? Does anyone here use a Voyager form format Swiss Micros device can comment on daily use long term?

I guess the good thing is I use the DM-16L rarely and can "swap" over the internals in case of failure, and flash the 15L firmware.

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10-29-2018, 08:04 AM
Post: #66
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(10-28-2018 07:09 PM)edryer Wrote:  Has the keyboard been designed for heavy use? Does anyone here use a Voyager form format Swiss Micros device can comment on daily use long term?

Disclaimer: I am involved with Swiss Micros, but not financially. I run their forum on a volunteer basis and serve as a kind of "community manager" channelling info between forum users and the Swiss Micros team.

I currently own most of the Swiss Micros machines. In particular I have a DM41L that has taken a hell of a beating over the last 15-18 months and it's still going strong. Although it doesn't have quite the same feel, the design is similar to HP machines. It starts out a bit harder but does soften over time. I was quite taken aback when comparing that DM41L to a new one that I recently acquired and to a new DM15L.

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10-29-2018, 08:55 AM
Post: #67
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(10-29-2018 08:04 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  These things are built like tanks. They'll take whatever you throw at them. Within reason, of course. They might not like you driving your car over them.

What happens if eaten by a hippopotamus?
Quote:Tough construction: One HP-12C was used by a zoo keeper to calculate feed mixtures. The zoo keeper dropped the calculator and it was consumed by a hippopotamus. The calculator survived the hippo's digestive process as well as the washing that followed.

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10-29-2018, 09:07 AM
Post: #68
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(10-29-2018 08:55 AM)Thomas Klemm Wrote:  What happens if eaten by a hippopotamus?
Quote:Tough construction: One HP-12C was used by a zoo keeper to calculate feed mixtures. The zoo keeper dropped the calculator and it was consumed by a hippopotamus. The calculator survived the hippo's digestive process as well as the washing that followed.

Err... That wasn't the first scenario that came to mind!
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10-29-2018, 10:09 AM
Post: #69
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(10-29-2018 08:55 AM)Thomas Klemm Wrote:  
(10-29-2018 08:04 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  These things are built like tanks. They'll take whatever you throw at them. Within reason, of course. They might not like you driving your car over them.

What happens if eaten by a hippopotamus?
Quote:Tough construction: One HP-12C was used by a zoo keeper to calculate feed mixtures. The zoo keeper dropped the calculator and it was consumed by a hippopotamus. The calculator survived the hippo's digestive process as well as the washing that followed.

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I always pondered about that it also went through the tail shaking they always do when pooping around.
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10-29-2018, 05:48 PM
Post: #70
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(10-29-2018 10:09 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  I always pondered about that it also went through the tail shaking they always do when pooping around

It was flicked over 1/2 a mile away Big Grin
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10-29-2018, 06:11 PM (This post was last modified: 10-30-2018 12:15 AM by edryer.)
Post: #71
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(10-29-2018 08:04 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(10-28-2018 07:09 PM)edryer Wrote:  Has the keyboard been designed for heavy use? Does anyone here use a Voyager form format Swiss Micros device can comment on daily use long term?
These things are built like tanks. They'll take whatever you throw at them. Within reason, of course. They might not like you driving your car over them.

Thank you. I don't drive so that is not an issue!

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10-29-2018, 08:40 PM
Post: #72
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(10-29-2018 08:04 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  These things are built like tanks. They'll take whatever you throw at them. Within reason, of course.

(10-29-2018 08:55 AM)Thomas Klemm Wrote:  What happens if eaten by a hippopotamus?

I guess it's dfficult to throw a hippopotamus at that calculator.

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