Mac OSX and PIL-box
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12-01-2021, 04:27 AM
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(12-01-2021 01:29 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Ilper is also the name of version 1.35.2 written for Linux in C using the curses library. Interesting, sorry for my mistake. Where is this version of ilper available? --Bob Prosperi |
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12-01-2021, 01:25 PM
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12-01-2021, 01:35 PM
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(12-01-2021 01:25 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(12-01-2021 04:27 AM)rprosperi Wrote: Interesting, sorry for my mistake. Where is this version of ilper available?TOS Thanks Sylvain. --Bob Prosperi |
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12-01-2021, 02:18 PM
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ILPer
(12-01-2021 01:25 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(12-01-2021 04:27 AM)rprosperi Wrote: Interesting, sorry for my mistake. Where is this version of ilper available?TOS How many versions of ILPer are there? 1. ILPer 2.2 for Windows by J-F Garnier 2. ILPer 2.4 for Windows by Christoph Giesselink. Similar to J-F's version 3. ILPer 1.35 for Windows by J-F Garnier. Earlier version written in VB, doesn't include the TCP/IP interface 4. ILPer 1.35.2 for Linux. A port of 1.35 by Christophe Gottheimer, also available on J-F's site. 5. pyILPER 1.8.3 for Linux, Windows, and macOS by Joachim Siebold. Includes a nice terminal emulation without the need for an 82164A. |
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12-01-2021, 03:56 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-01-2021 02:18 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote: How many versions of ILPer are there? To be more exact: 1. ILPer 1.35 for Windows by J-F Garnier. Early version (2009) written in VB. Not recommended any more, except for documentation. 2. ILPer 2.x (currently 2.4) enhanced version for Windows by Christoph Giesselink. 3. ILPer 1.35.2 for Linux. A port of 1.35 by Christophe Gottheimer, available on TOS. 4. pyILPER Python version (currently 1.8.3) for Linux, Windows, and macOS by Joachim Siebold. J-F |
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12-03-2021, 03:51 AM
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Is anyone using ILPer version 1.35.2 for Linux on a Mac?
Steve N. |
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12-03-2021, 04:28 AM
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(12-03-2021 03:51 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is anyone using ILPer version 1.35.2 for Linux on a Mac? Probably not. I live on a PIL-Box and ILPer, and I never even heard of it (which means it is only rarely discussed here, if at all) but now that I see it's from 2012, that makes sense. As pyILPer is far richer, and works on both Linux and macOS, most of those folks use that. --Bob Prosperi |
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12-03-2021, 08:21 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-03-2021 04:28 AM)rprosperi Wrote: I live on a PIL-Box and ILPer, and I never even heard of it (which means it is only rarely discussed here, if at all) Latest update from Christophe this year here. He mentioned he stopped any HP41-HP-IL development, this means ILPer-Linux is no more maintained. See also this older thread. I'm not (at all) a Linux or Mac user, so I didn't follow this version carefully. J-F |
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12-03-2021, 05:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2021 06:04 PM by Dave Frederickson.)
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-03-2021 04:28 AM)rprosperi Wrote:(12-03-2021 03:51 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is anyone using ILPer version 1.35.2 for Linux on a Mac? A cool thing about pyILPER is that it can act as a front-end for LIFUTILS. https://github.com/bug400/lifutils When a device is disabled in a tab, say a drive, and a catalog item is right-clicked, a menu of LIFUTIL functions available for that item is presented. Works with drives, files, etc. LIFUTILS must be installed which can be verified by a menu item. Also, Python must be installed. |
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12-03-2021, 08:08 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-03-2021 03:51 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is anyone using ILPer version 1.35.2 for Linux on a Mac? Yes. With patches. Details: http://sense.net/~egan/ilper/ |
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12-03-2021, 09:54 PM
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(12-03-2021 04:28 AM)rprosperi Wrote:(12-03-2021 03:51 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is anyone using ILPer version 1.35.2 for Linux on a Mac? I just installed pyILPer on my iMac, and you all are right. It is very useful, and it runs on a Mac. At this point Linux ilper is mostly useful as a way to research how software is written for the PIL-Box. It's in C, and I am a C programmer from way back. I also discovered that the OS X version I am running, 10.14.6, includes the correct driver from Apple. So, as someone said, pyILPer just works. Thanks for your suggestions. Steve N. |
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12-03-2021, 10:22 PM
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12-04-2021, 07:13 PM
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12-04-2021, 07:21 PM
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12-09-2021, 05:43 PM
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Is the emulated HP-IL HP82161/HP9114 intended to be accessed via device dependent commands? I ask this because I have a few BASIC/FOCAL programs that do this and I recently got some strange results from a program that was very reliable on physical hardware. The program read all nulls when reading the directory, but got mostly valid info from the header record. This same program got good data in prior runs. Could it be corruption in my HP-71?
Forgive me if this is off topic for this thread. Steve N. |
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12-09-2021, 07:05 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-09-2021 05:43 PM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is the emulated HP-IL HP82161/HP9114 intended to be accessed via device dependent commands? I ask this because I have a few BASIC/FOCAL programs that do this and I recently got some strange results from a program that was very reliable on physical hardware. The program read all nulls when reading the directory, but got mostly valid info from the header record. The mass storage emulation is using the same protocol (the so-called "Filbert" protocol) than the HP82161/HP9114 and is compatible with mass storage operations of known controllers (HP41/71/75, HP Portable). However, the implementation may be slightly different, so if you found some deviations vs the real hardware, it's interesting to know. Please describe your BASIC/FOCAL programs and results, preferably in a separate thread. J-F |
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12-10-2021, 02:09 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-09-2021 07:05 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote:(12-09-2021 05:43 PM)Steve Nichols Wrote: Is the emulated HP-IL HP82161/HP9114 intended to be accessed via device dependent commands? I ask this because I have a few BASIC/FOCAL programs that do this and I recently got some strange results from a program that was very reliable on physical hardware. The program read all nulls when reading the directory, but got mostly valid info from the header record. Is there a thread you would like to suggest? Steve N. |
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12-10-2021, 02:48 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(12-10-2021 02:09 AM)Steve Nichols Wrote:(12-09-2021 07:05 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote: The mass storage emulation is using the same protocol (the so-called "Filbert" protocol) than the HP82161/HP9114 and is compatible with mass storage operations of known controllers (HP41/71/75, HP Portable). However, the implementation may be slightly different, so if you found some deviations vs the real hardware, it's interesting to know. J-F meant you should create a new thread for this topic. --Bob Prosperi |
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04-09-2022, 09:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-09-2022 09:03 PM by cruff.)
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
I've just installed pyilper using the miniconda method (which completed cleanly) on BigSur 11.6.5. When I attempt to start pyilper I get the following fatal error:
TypeError: invalid result from cls_AspectLayout.heightForWidth(), 'float' object cannot be interpreted as an integer Has anyone seen this before? goldfinch% conda info active environment : None shell level : 0 user config file : /Users/cruff/.condarc populated config files : /Users/cruff/.condarc conda version : 4.12.0 conda-build version : not installed python version : 3.9.7.final.0 virtual packages : __osx=10.16=0 __unix=0=0 __archspec=1=x86_64 base environment : /opt/miniconda3 (writable) conda av data dir : /opt/miniconda3/etc/conda conda av metadata url : None channel URLs : https://conda.anaconda.org/bug400/osx-64 https://conda.anaconda.org/bug400/noarch https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/osx-64 https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/noarch https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/osx-64 https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/noarch package cache : /opt/miniconda3/pkgs /Users/cruff/.conda/pkgs envs directories : /opt/miniconda3/envs /Users/cruff/.conda/envs platform : osx-64 user-agent : conda/4.12.0 requests/2.27.1 CPython/3.9.7 Darwin/20.6.0 OSX/10.16 UID:GID : 8264:1500 netrc file : None offline mode : False |
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04-11-2022, 03:31 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
I am not sure that your installation went that well.
My config ... macOS Monterey 12.3.1 on a MBP 15" 2019 uname -a Code: Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Fri Mar 18 00:45:05 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8020.101.4~15/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 conda info Code: active environment : base conda list Code: # packages in environment at /Users/sycote/opt/miniconda3: |
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