Lot of good HP-41 / TI-58/59 material here (but in French)

[Gene]

Anyone know of this magazine? Sure wish there were an English translation of all of this. Looks like many issues had a lot of goodies in there.

http://www.archives.hp41.eu/ordinateur-p...oche-7.pdf

[Garth Wilson]

I just get a blank, white page. Does it work for anyone else?

[rprosperi]

A nice color PDF opens for me, but totally in French. But I agree, looks like excellent content.

[Sylvain Cote]

What's wrong with French content ?

List of old French computer magazines with handheld articles:

• AbandonMag web site
• L'Ordinateur de Poche
• List
• L'Ordinateur Individuel
  

... also the very active MySilicium French forum with the "Tous les Pockets" handheld section.

Sylvain

[EmmanuelC]

if Google Translate is not your friend, feel free to connect with the aficionados of the silicium. fr forum. they are really active enthousiasts !

[Thomas Klemm]

(05-15-2022 02:08 PM)Gene Wrote:  Sure wish there were an English translation of all of this.

I like the illustrations, but especially the quarrelling queens on page 49 gave me a chuckle.
The program on page 52 takes 120 steps.
This seems to be quite a bit more than the solution in Xerxes' Calculator Benchmark:

Code:

        CLR CMS
        8 STO 11
 LBL A  RCL 00 X<->T
        RCL 11 X=T E
        CLR X<->T
        OP 20
        RCL 11 STO IND 00
 LBL B  1 SUM 10
        RCL 00 STO 09
 LBL C  INV DSZ 09 A
        RCL IND 00 - RCL IND 09 =
        X=T D
        ABS + RCL 09 - RCL 00 =
        INV X=T C
 LBL D  DSZ IND 00 B
        DSZ 00 D
 LBL E  RCL 10
        R/S

However I didn't count them.

The timing there is given as:
58:20         TI-58C
43:40         TI-59

Quote: Pour exécuter ce programme, on
appuie simplement sur CLR et A et,
après 53 minutes, on voit apparaître
enfin 15863724.

That is, we're in the same ballpark.
Don't miss the beautiful flow-chart on page 51.

The program for the TI-57 on page 66 to create a magic square looked interesting at first:

Quote: L'utilisation du programme est
simple ; il suffit d'entrer l'ordre du
carré puis de presser RST et R/S

But then it says:

Quote: Il n'est sans doute pas inutile de
rappeler que l'algorithme utilisé ne
donne des résultats utiles que si
l'ordre du carré est impair ; le pro-
gramme ne vérifie pas les entrées, et
il donne donc des résultats sans
signification si l'on introduit un n
pair.

Thus it looks like a variant of the following method is used:

            01
         02    06
      03    07    11
   04    08    12    16
05    09    13    17    21
   10    14    18    22
      15    19    23
         20    24
            25

After a shifting the coloured numbers we get:

      03 20 07 24 11
      16 08 25 12 04
      09 21 13 05 17
      22 14 01 18 10
      15 02 19 06 23

Thanks for posting this.

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(05-15-2022 03:57 PM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  Does it work for anyone else?

Yes, it works for me.

[Eric Rechlin]

(05-15-2022 02:08 PM)Gene Wrote:  Anyone know of this magazine? Sure wish there were an English translation of all of this. Looks like many issues had a lot of goodies in there.

http://www.archives.hp41.eu/ordinateur-p...oche-7.pdf

I discussed this in my USB drive talk at HHC 2021. I downloaded all 23 issues, cleaned up the scans a bit, and included them on the HHC 2021 USB drive.

Google Translate is of some help for those of us who don't know French, but its effectiveness is diminished by it effectively being a double translation (first the OCR of the text in the PDFs I made, and then the machine translation to English). Note that the PDF you linked does not have OCR, making it even harder to do a translation if you start from there.

[Thomas Klemm]

(05-15-2022 05:00 PM)EmmanuelC Wrote:  if Google Translate is not your friend

It tells me: Can't translate this page



I assume that the PDF is just a scan and doesn't contain any text.

[badaze]

I bought all the issues when they were published in the early 80’s and still have them in my collection. It’s a must have for French collectors.

[toml_12953]

(05-15-2022 03:57 PM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  I just get a blank, white page. Does it work for anyone else?

It works for me. Microsoft Edge Version 101.0.1210.47

[Garth Wilson]

(05-15-2022 08:01 PM)toml_12953 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 03:57 PM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  I just get a blank, white page. Does it work for anyone else?

It works for me. Microsoft Edge Version 101.0.1210.47

I'm using firefox. I had to go to a private-browsing session for it to work. When you look up problems like this, it always says to clear cache and cookies; but it happens on sites I've never been on, so there's no cache or cookies from them, at all. I'm not happy with recent updates to firefox, which are not upgrades. I will not use Microsoft software ever again though.

[toml_12953]

(05-16-2022 02:04 AM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 08:01 PM)toml_12953 Wrote:  It works for me. Microsoft Edge Version 101.0.1210.47

I'm using firefox. I had to go to a private-browsing session for it to work. When you look up problems like this, it always says to clear cache and cookies; but it happens on sites I've never been on, so there's no cache or cookies from them, at all. I'm not happy with recent updates to firefox, which are not upgrades. I will not use Microsoft software ever again though.

So use Google Chrome. Edge and Chrome are both based on Chromium and are very similar to each other.

[Garth Wilson]

(05-16-2022 04:43 AM)toml_12953 Wrote:  So use Google Chrome. Edge and Chrome are both based on Chromium and are very similar to each other.

Review: Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time to switch.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2019/06/21...to-switch/

Why You Should Delete Google Chrome After New Tracking Admission
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/...-and-macs/

I won't use any Google products or services either.

Anyway, I did get to see the articles. French is my third language, and I can read it. It's just not as easy as English or Spanish.

[Eddie W. Shore]

(05-15-2022 04:41 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  What's wrong with French content ?

List of old French computer magazines with handheld articles:

• AbandonMag web site
• L'Ordinateur de Poche
• List
• L'Ordinateur Individuel
  

... also the very active MySilicium French forum with the "Tous les Pockets" handheld section.

Sylvain

I recognize ledudu, I am regular visitor to the Casio Ledudu website.

[Jlouis]

(05-15-2022 02:08 PM)Gene Wrote:  Anyone know of this magazine? Sure wish there were an English translation of all of this. Looks like many issues had a lot of goodies in there.

http://www.archives.hp41.eu/ordinateur-p...oche-7.pdf

Thanks, nice reading and a time machine, indeed.

I remember in 1981 I could only buy a TI SR40 LCD, that worked for a one and a half year.

I could not think of buying a pocket computer or a HP.
This reminds me of an old english saying, "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"

[Jlouis]

(05-16-2022 07:52 AM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 04:43 AM)toml_12953 Wrote:  So use Google Chrome. Edge and Chrome are both based on Chromium and are very similar to each other.

Review: Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time to switch.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2019/06/21...to-switch/

Why You Should Delete Google Chrome After New Tracking Admission
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/...-and-macs/

I won't use any Google products or services either.

Anyway, I did get to see the articles. French is my third language, and I can read it. It's just not as easy as English or Spanish.

I'm well aware of that, but don't get me wrong, nowadays there's no such a thing as privacy.

You can only dream of been in private with Fire Fox or others browsers.

With modern technology, George Orwell 1984 is a kindergarten book.

Cheers

[Jlouis]

(05-15-2022 04:41 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  What's wrong with French content ?

List of old French computer magazines with handheld articles:

• AbandonMag web site
• L'Ordinateur de Poche
• List
• L'Ordinateur Individuel
  

... also the very active MySilicium French forum with the "Tous les Pockets" handheld section.

Sylvain

WOW, Really thanks for this, Sylvain!

I made the sites favorite immediately!

Fun for long time, Really!

Cheers

[mfleming]

(05-23-2022 04:03 AM)Jlouis Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 07:52 AM)Garth Wilson Wrote:  Review: Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time to switch.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2019/06/21...to-switch/

Why You Should Delete Google Chrome After New Tracking Admission
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/...-and-macs/

I won't use any Google products or services either.

Anyway, I did get to see the articles. French is my third language, and I can read it. It's just not as easy as English or Spanish.

I'm well aware of that, but don't get me wrong, nowadays there's no such a thing as privacy.

You can only dream of been in private with Fire Fox or others browsers.

With modern technology, George Orwell 1984 is a kindergarten book.

Cheers

I don't use Chrome often, except when having compatibility problems with the Brave browser (also Chromium based). But when I do I use DuckDuckGo as the default browser. Their recent TV commercial (in the U.S.) really nails it

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/blTx/duckduckgo-watching-you

~Mark

[Dave Britten]

(05-23-2022 04:07 AM)Jlouis Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 04:41 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  What's wrong with French content ?

List of old French computer magazines with handheld articles:

• AbandonMag web site
• L'Ordinateur de Poche
• List
• L'Ordinateur Individuel
  

... also the very active MySilicium French forum with the "Tous les Pockets" handheld section.

Sylvain

WOW, Really thanks for this, Sylvain!

I made the sites favorite immediately!

Fun for long time, Really!

Cheers

Jeux & Stratégie is also worth a look, as they often included a few calculator games.

[Archilog]

(05-23-2022 01:04 PM)Dave Britten Wrote:  

(05-23-2022 04:07 AM)Jlouis Wrote:  WOW, Really thanks for this, Sylvain!

I made the sites favorite immediately!

Fun for long time, Really!

Cheers

Jeux & Stratégie is also worth a look, as they often included a few calculator games.

For the happy few:

(01-02-2021 01:12 PM)Gilles Wrote:  You can find in the "Gazette des pocketicaires n°10", pages 70-72, 43 links of calculators programs published in J&S, by Marge :

http://silicium.org/site/index.php/telec...eticaires#

Most of them have an HP RPN version.
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