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02-04-2023, 05:33 PM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2023 05:35 PM by TellyS.)
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HP's Hall of Fame
I have been reading the RCL 40 book with great interest. Amazing and unique stories from all those involved in the HP calculator products. One very interesting writeup is from Jim Donnely who describes HP's "Hall of Fame," a series of mounted product models arranged by family and chronological order. He talks about HP employees bringing their families to the display and showing them, which models they themselves had been a part of their production. The wall also included some peripherals and even programming pacs.

Does anyone have a picture or reference to that Hall of Fame? This would have been really interesting to see. Unfortunately, it was dismantled at some point, from what I read.

My website displays HPs in chronological order (https://spyropoulos.net/), but I am sure seeing them on a long wall would have been quite the experience.
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02-04-2023, 06:33 PM
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Nice timeline!

I noticed you are missing the new HP-12C (ARM emulation of 12C ROM) release on or about 06-28-2008.

Review of which can be found in the archives:

https://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap...ead=150365
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02-04-2023, 06:46 PM
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(02-04-2023 05:33 PM)TellyS Wrote:  My website displays HPs in chronological order (https://spyropoulos.net/), but I am sure seeing them on a long wall would have been quite the experience.

What a nice and well designed site! Congratulations!

Bookmarked.

Cheers
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02-04-2023, 07:21 PM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2023 07:22 PM by TellyS.)
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(02-04-2023 06:33 PM)Mark H. Shin Wrote:  I noticed you are missing the new HP-12C (ARM emulation of 12C ROM) release on or about 06-28-2008.

Thank you. I never owned that one. All those are (were, in some cases) my own that I have photographed myself. I may have to look for that one.
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02-04-2023, 08:16 PM
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Wow, that is a great site!
One minor point. The HP-48SX price at introduction was US$ 350 (list price), not 250. I remember having to sell my HP-28S (plus extra books & leather case) to help fund the purchase my HP-48SX. I think I paid $275 for my HP-48SX at Educalc in 1991. That was a lot of money for me back then.

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HP48 SX Related Products as of August 1, 1990
(From list compiled by EduCalc)
Note: Entries without a stock number are based on pre-release information.

EduCALC
No. Type Stock No. Description From When List Price
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Calc HP48SX Scientific Expandible HP Stock $350.00 $274.95
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02-04-2023, 08:19 PM
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(02-04-2023 08:16 PM)Steve Simpkin Wrote:  One minor point. The HP-48SX price at introduction was US$ 350 (list price), not 250.

I bought one around that time too. I wish I could remember how much I had paid. But, thank you. I will correct it.
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02-04-2023, 08:43 PM
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Awesome gallery! The timeline reminds me a lot of the one on https://my.calcs.quest.

Some more corrections -- the Prime came out in 2013, not 2015. The 49G came out in 1999, not 2000. I think the 34S was 2011, or at least the overlays like the one pictured didn't come out until June 2011. The 48G+ was not 1993, but I think 1998 (it replaced the 48G when 32 KB memory chips became hard to get). The 35s was from 2007, not 2008.

I'm impressed with the completeness of your collection. Some others that you are missing are the second version of the 17bII+ (very different design, in silver), the second version of the 32SII (different color scheme) the second version of the 12c Platinum (looks just like the Anniversary Edition, just without the text, though), and the 12c Prestige, as well as some of the lower-end models (8s, 10s+, 300s series). You also only have the original Prime, not the later color scheme (introduced on Revision C and retained for the G2).
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02-04-2023, 09:27 PM
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(02-04-2023 08:43 PM)Eric Rechlin Wrote:  Some more corrections -- the Prime came out in 2013, not 2015. The 49G came out in 1999, not 2000. I think the 34S was 2011, or at least the overlays like the one pictured didn't come out until June 2011. The 48G+ was not 1993, but I think 1998 (it replaced the 48G when 32 KB memory chips became hard to get). The 35s was from 2007, not 2008.

I'm impressed with the completeness of your collection. Some others that you are missing are the second version of the 17bII+ (very different design, in silver), the second version of the 32SII (different color scheme) the second version of the 12c Platinum (looks just like the Anniversary Edition, just without the text, though), and the 12c Prestige, as well as some of the lower-end models (8s, 10s+, 300s series). You also only have the original Prime, not the later color scheme (introduced on Revision C and retained for the G2).

Thank you for the information. I will check and correct. The missing ones are the ones that I never owned (and therefore never photographed). Someday, I may buy the next Prime.
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02-05-2023, 12:02 AM
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Thank you all for your comments and corrections. I gave the whole HP series another look and corrected the errors you pointed out. Most dates come from the "Guide to HP Calculators and Computers," the 2007 printing. Many were cross-checked, but I guess I missed a few.
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02-05-2023, 01:48 AM
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Craig Finseth‘s HPDATAbase site is also handy reference for introduction dates and pricing.

http://www.finseth.com/hpdata/
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02-11-2023, 04:06 PM
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Thanks to Mark's help, I was able to locate the latest version of the HP 12C, running at 48 MHz. An impressive execution speed, completing 87,000 iterations of + GTO 01 in one minute.

I was also able to locate a 1999 (?) Agilent or Marvell version - the one with a single CR2032 battery.

Thanks to your help, my website now is more complete! I will soon add more content, including images of the back of the calculators that make some versions more recognizable, along with the above-mentioned benchmark.

Telly
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02-11-2023, 04:32 PM
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Congratulations. Excellent photos. Pedro
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02-11-2023, 05:43 PM
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We had something similar at the HP facility in Tomball TX. Basically a series of glass cases with products and descriptions. I remember seeing an HP-35 and HP-65 in there with lots of other equipment like old oscilloscopes. -J
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02-11-2023, 08:14 PM
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Does anyone know how long it takes for a new post to show up?

I'm a new member, but I've tried to post the same thing twice and a quick message flies by about posts being moderated? Does that mean approved by the forum admin?

Sorry to ask this here on this thread, but didn't know where else to ask.
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02-11-2023, 10:00 PM
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(02-11-2023 05:43 PM)John Garza (3665) Wrote:  We had something similar at the HP facility in Tomball TX. Basically a series of glass cases with products and descriptions. I remember seeing an HP-35 and HP-65 in there with lots of other equipment like old oscilloscopes. -J

Cool. Any pictures, by any chance?
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02-12-2023, 01:43 PM
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(02-11-2023 08:14 PM)timlodge912 Wrote:  Does anyone know how long it takes for a new post to show up?

I'm a new member, but I've tried to post the same thing twice and a quick message flies by about posts being moderated? Does that mean approved by the forum admin?

Sorry to ask this here on this thread, but didn't know where else to ask.

Posts for new members are moderated, due to excessive number of SPAM accounts. Mods will usually approve such messages within a day, often much faster, it just depends on when we see them.

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02-12-2023, 05:27 PM
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Hello everyone,

Thanks TellyS for sharing with us your beautiful site.
I CTRL+D it! Wink
The pictures are great and the scrolling timeline is a very good idea. Smile

Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations, I would say that :

* The HP-15C was not the "successor" of the HP-11C, but an additional upgraded model.

* As for the HP-28S, compared to the 28C, it also has brought the following features:
- COMB, PERM (combination and permutation)
- DGTIZ (digitize points) and →LCD, LCD→ (graphic objects or GROB)
- POS, that already existed for strings, was extended to lists.

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Bruno
Sanyo CZ-0124 ⋅ TI-57 ⋅ HP-15C ⋅ Canon X-07 + XP-140 Monitor Card ⋅ HP-41CX ⋅ HP-28S ⋅ HP-50G ⋅ HP-50G
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02-12-2023, 05:54 PM (This post was last modified: 02-12-2023 05:55 PM by TellyS.)
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(02-12-2023 05:27 PM)FLISZT Wrote:  Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations ...

Of course, you are permitted and much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to point out discrepancies. I made all the changes you suggested.

I would have liked to play with my 48SX again, but somehow when I turn it off, I cannot power it on again. It's with great difficulty that it powers on again and, worse, I don't know what I did to get it to power on again.

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02-12-2023, 06:16 PM
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(02-12-2023 05:54 PM)TellyS Wrote:  
(02-12-2023 05:27 PM)FLISZT Wrote:  Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations ...

Of course, you are permitted and much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to point out discrepancies. I made all the changes you suggested.

I would have liked to play with my 48SX again, but somehow when I turn it off, I cannot power it on again. It's with great difficulty that it powers on again and, worse, I don't know what I did to get it to power on again.

Regards,
Telly

Try applying pressure on the area between the top row of keys and the LCD while pressing the ON button.
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02-12-2023, 06:38 PM
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(02-04-2023 05:33 PM)TellyS Wrote:  Does anyone have a picture or reference to that Hall of Fame? This would have been really interesting to see. Unfortunately, it was dismantled at some point, from what I read.

I don't have any pictures and can't readily find a link to any, however the March-April 1994 edition of the Palmtop Paper's CD Infobase included an HP100/200LX formatted file that contained a textual description of the wall of fame. I've included it below.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wallfame
============================================================
"Wall of Fame" Listing
    [ Product numbers have not be standardized. ]

Frank Wales of Leeds, U.K. (<old email redacted>) provided this
information.  The format of entries is based on the individual boards
along the HoF wall -- each paragraph represents the units on that
board.  The entries are in board order away from the reception area
towards the building 3/4 conduit. The layout is:

[name on hall of fame board, a.k.a. series name]
model#  codename        launched  $price (comment)
 
[CLASSIC]
35                       72/7/1    395 (no name)
45      WIZARD           73/5/1    395
55      MERLIN           75/1/1    395 (duplicates 75D name)
65      SUPERSTAR        74/1/19   795
67      HAWKEYE          76/7/1    450
70      SCROOGE          74/8/1    275
80                       73/2/1    395 (no name)
 
[WOODSTOCK]
29C     BONNIE           77/7/1    195
27      SALAD            76/5/1    200
21      PUMPKIN          75/2/1    125
25C     SQUISH           76/7/1    200
22      TURNIP           75/9/1    165
25      SQUASH           75/8/1    195
 
[TOPCAT]
91      FELIX            76/3/1    500
92      BOBCAT           77/7/1    625
97      KITTYHAWK        76/7/1    750
97S     RICOCHET         77/12/1   1375
 
[STING]
10      KISS             77/7/1    175
19C     CLYDE            77/9/1    345
 
[SPICE/SPIKE]
31E     GINGER           78/5/1     60
32E     THYME            78/7/1     80
33E     SAGE             78/5/1    100
33C     SAGE C           79/7/1    120
34C     BASIL            79/7/1    150
37E     PARSLEY          79/7/1     75
38E     CHIVE            78/5/1    120
38C     CHIVE C          79/7/1    150
 
[<NO NAME>]
01      CRICKET          78/7/1    695 (steel case & strap)
01      CRICKET          78/7/1    850 (gold-tone case & strap)
 
[COCONUT]
41C     COCONUT          79/7/1    295
41CV    SILVERBIRD       80/12/15  325
41CX    HONEYNUT         83/10/1   325
82140A  HYSTER           79/8/1    195 (card reader)
82153A  WAND             80/6/6    125 (wand)
82143A  HELIOS           79/8/1    350 (printer)
82120A  HURRICANE        80/4/8     40 (rechargeable battery pack)
OPT 001 BLANKNUT         81/3/24   325 (custom 41/no white key legends)
 
[VOYAGER]
10C     0.5              82/9/2     80
11C     1.0              81/9/1    150
12C     1.0              81/9/1    135
15C     1.5              82/7/1    135
16C     PR               82/7/1    150
 
[HP-IL]
82160A  GRAPENUTS        81/12/14  125 (HP-IL module)
82161A  FILBERT          81/12/14  550 (tape drive)
82162A  SPECIAL K        81/12/14  495 (cereal printer :-))
82163A  WALLABY          82/4/5    295 (video interface)
82164A  KUKUINUT         83/5/1    295 (RS-232C interface)
82165A  FOXNUT           82/5/10   395 (GPIO interface)
82166A  PILBOX           81/12/14  395 (small GPIO converter)
82168A  WOMBAT           83/6/1    495 (acoustic MODEM)
82169A  NUTSHELL         83/3/1    395 (HP-IB interface)
 
[<NO NAME>]
71B     TITAN            84/2/1    525
75C     KANGAROO         82/9/15   995
75D     MERLIN           84/2/1    1095 (duplicates 55 name)
82718A  POD              84/7/1    875 (expansion pod)
82713A  FALINE           83/3/1    495 (PMS)
 
[<NO NAME>]
18C     CHAMPION         86/6/1    175
28C     PALADIN          87/1/5    235
19B     TYCOON           88/1/4    175
28S     ORLANDO          88/1/4    235
82240A  REDEYE           86/11/3   135 (IR printer)
 
[PIONEER]
17B     TRADER           88/1/4    110
27S     MENTOR           88/1/4    110
42S     DAVINCI          88/10/31  120
14B     MIDAS            88/10/31  79.95
22S     PLATO            88/6/1    59.95
32S     LEONARDO         88/6/1    69.95
10B     ERNST            89/1/3    49.95
20S     ERNI             89/1/3    49.95
21S     MONTE CARLO      89/1/3    49.95
 
[<NO NAME>]
48SX    CHARLEMAGNE      90/3/16   350
 
New on the list (supplied by Jim Donnelly):

48G     ALCUIN 6/1/93     165
48GX    HAMMER          6/1/93     350
95LX    JAGUAR          4/23/91    699


For completeness, here are a few more products that are NOT on
the Hall of Fame, although the HP95LX is probably there by now.
 
model#  codename        launched  price ($)
82182A  phineas          81/12/14?   ?   (time module) %
82242A  blinky           88?         ?   (41 IR printer module)
82210A  hoover           90/10/15? 99.95 (HP41CV Emulator)
82211A  flamberge        90/3/16   99.95 (Equation Library)
82240B  visine              ?       ?    (IR printer)
32SII   nardo?           91/3/1     ?    (correct from Educalc catalog)
48S     shorty           91/4/2    250
95LX    jaguar           91/4/23?  695   Pocket PC w/Lotus 1-2-3
 
%: I assume the timer came out with the IL module, because that's
the way I remember them being announced -- this may be wrong.  Also,
the name really is phineas, although I assume it's named after
Phileas Fogg -- strange, huh?


Further notes from Wlodek:

I have compared this with notes from Craig Finseth, my own notes, and
photographs of some frames by Jim Donnelly (the photos are difficult
to read in places, so they are not guaranteed to give the right
answer). I have included some of my recollections too.  From all
these, I have made a few corrections and additions to the above. The
HP48SX 32k and 128k RAM cards have now been added to the CHARLEMAGNE
board, as has the Flamberge ROM card. The HP95LX has not been added to
the Hall of Fame (the HP-94 handheld computer was not included
either).
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