NEW: HP 15C Collectors Edition

[JDW]

(05-03-2023 10:28 PM)BruceH Wrote:  FWIW, key legend wear is highly dependent on the user. I knew one HP95LX user who completely wore off the shift key markings in 18 months. And I mean *completely* - there was no sign the keys had ever had a label on them. I can only assume he had sandpaper for skin and sweat only mildly less acidic than the creature from 'Alien'.

That device has a computer style keyboard you will most certainly type on rapidly and use similarly to a full sized computer keyboard, which will invoke more damage on printed keys than even a heavily used calculator. With that said, if the keys had been double-shot, even that heavy usage would not have made the key labels vanish over time, which is the point.

I purchased a Matias brand computer keyboard in 2017 and by 2019 the printing had worn completely away on several keys. I had never experienced that before, thus proving I am not hard on my keyboards. Indeed, I obtained free replacement keys from the manufacturer, only to have the markings on those replacements wear off in a few short months. I mention this only to say that it is not merely dependent on the user, but the QUALITY OF PRINTING as well. I will never buy another Matias keyboard again.

Again, I don't want to be the lone sourpuss here, nor do I wish to diminish the excitement over the 15c CE release. I think it's great, and I hope for a 16c CE too. But I also hope the printed keys are pretty darned good (and not designed by Matias) so many of us with actual finger oil can use the calculator frequently without fear it will not longer be "collectible" worthy in a year due to printed markings wearing off.

[Allen]

(05-02-2023 08:10 PM)KlaasKuperus Wrote:  ...about Amazon or Alza specifically, depends on the (local) distributors....

This is good news about the 15C-CE.

Goodness selling it on amazon is going to be a mad-house. There is no reasonable way to control which of the 15C variants are available under any given listing!!

[dmh]

Local pricing is now out for Australia which is $220 AUD :-)

(05-03-2023 09:58 AM)Michael Lopez Wrote:  For those of you living in Australia like I am, just placed an order for the new 15C ce & costs were: 115.69 Euro for calculator including leather case (0% VAT applied) + 37.50 Euro delivery = 153.19 Euro. Australian VAT at 10% will then be added on top.

Cheers,

Michael

[FLISZT]

On Eric Rechlin's website, the specific manual is already available!

https://literature.hpcalc.org/items/2258

(no spiral bound )

[Werner]

(05-03-2023 11:25 PM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  I have read that “Schadenfreude” is one of those words that don’t have an exact translation in any other language, though.

Any other language? In Dutch, ‘leedvermaak’ has the exact same meaning.

Cheers, Werner

[Massimo Gnerucci]

(05-03-2023 09:02 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 08:16 PM)Stevetuc Wrote:  How do you say schadenfreude in Italian?

It could be "mal comune, mezzo gaudio", more or less.
But not much joy, in the end.

I stand corrected, the right term is Aticofilia.

[Stevetuc]

Are there any details of the CE hardware spec and how it differs from the LE? I'm guessing it's arm based and the fixes could be retrofitted to the LE should Movaria see fit to do so...it would be a nice gesture to make those devices bug free after 12 years of waiting..
Of course that would possibly reduce sales a tad but I suspect most enthusiasts will still buy both

[linq2008]

Don't think about it. this is hot money

(05-04-2023 05:11 AM)Stevetuc Wrote:  Are there any details of the CE hardware spec and how it differs from the LE? I'm guessing it's arm based and the fixes could be retrofitted to the LE should Movaria see fit to do so...it would be a nice gesture to make those devices bug free after 12 years of waiting..
Of course that would possibly reduce sales a tad but I suspect most enthusiasts will still buy both

[Michael Lopez]

(05-04-2023 02:30 AM)dmh Wrote:  Local pricing is now out for Australia which is $220 AUD :-)

(05-03-2023 09:58 AM)Michael Lopez Wrote:  For those of you living in Australia like I am, just placed an order for the new 15C ce & costs were: 115.69 Euro for calculator including leather case (0% VAT applied) + 37.50 Euro delivery = 153.19 Euro. Australian VAT at 10% will then be added on top.

Cheers,

Michael

That is cheaper than buying it from Europe but I don't mind as the difference isn't that great to delay the purchase.

Who is selling the new 15C in Australia?

Cheers,

Michael

[Steve Simpkin]

(05-04-2023 05:11 AM)Stevetuc Wrote:  Are there any details of the CE hardware spec and how it differs from the LE? I'm guessing it's arm based and the fixes could be retrofitted to the LE should Movaria see fit to do so...it would be a nice gesture to make those devices bug free after 12 years of waiting..
Of course that would possibly reduce sales a tad but I suspect most enthusiasts will still buy both

The HP-15C LE was based on the Atmel AT91SAM7L128 (ARM7) CPU that was used in the HP-12C variant at the time (2008 - May 2015).

The HP-15C CE is likely based on the Microchip ATSAM4LC2CA (ARM Cortex-M4) CPU that is used on the current HP-12C variant (May 2015 - present).

http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/hpcalc/voy...iants.html

[HKG]

Hi all,

I am living in Hong Kong, a small island in far East ...The delivery cost is about $65
I missed the chance when LE came out in 2011.
I put an order this time at once even the shipment costed me nearly half the price of a CE.

[Mark Scheuern]

I regularly wear out the printing on my computer keyboards--the one I'm typing on right now, in fact--but they keys are still fine on my 15C LE, which I use daily, though not '80s engineer style. So I'm guessing these will be fine for me.

Tempted to order now but I guess I'll wait for US availability.

[Siegfried]

Can‘t order from Austria as no shipping options are shown ;-(

[Didier Lachieze]

(05-04-2023 01:20 PM)Siegfried Wrote:  Can‘t order from Austria as no shipping options are shown ;-(

Are you ordering from Eduwinkel or The Calculator Store?

I pre-ordered from The Calculator Store, the country I used to set-up my account there was used to calculate the local VAT and shipping to EU countries is free.
As mentioned on their site: "Select "Reserve Unit" as payment method to delay payment until delivery - you'll be contacted before shipment."

[Thomas Radtke]

Heck, just wanted to glance through the topics.

Down nearly 128 EUR. Uh oh.

Thanks to everyone involved

[Thomas Radtke]

(05-03-2023 11:25 PM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  If it proves to be a usable calculator, unlike my 15C LE, I may change my mind.

Key bouncing?

[Dave Britten]

(05-04-2023 01:55 PM)Thomas Radtke Wrote:  Heck, just wanted to glance through the topics.

Down nearly 128 EUR. Uh oh.

Thanks to everyone involved

That is the risk we all must accept coming to these forums!

[OlidaBel]

this 15c seems beautiful and interesting.
The original one was/is my favorite HP.
But I am not a collectioner.

Compared to the SM DM15L, it lacks the ability to make a backup/restore with the USB port.
Comparison is not fair, some could say...

I have not yet decided.

[Valentin Albillo]

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Hi, Gerson,

(05-03-2023 11:25 PM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  I have read that “Schadenfreude” is one of those words that don’t have an exact translation in any other language, though.

Gloating.

To exhibit a conspicuous (sometimes malevolent) pleasure or sense of self-satisfaction, often at an adversary's misfortune.

Regards.
V.

[Lukas]

How does it compare to the limited edition from 2011, apart from bug fixes?

edit: Apparently the CE version is a bit faster than the LE version. At least according to the infos from this thread: https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-19896.html