[VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
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03-19-2024, 01:27 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2024 03:57 AM by Valentin Albillo.)
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Hi, all, First of all, thank you very much to all of you who posted in this thread for your interest and appreciation, let alone your valuable contributions. A few comments before I post my original solutions. Let's see ,,. Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:I’ll take the opportunity to present my own polynomial equation of that kind: I was expecting you to come with a fantastic input for Pi Day and true to form, you certanly delivered with that awesome "symmetric" equation, Gerson, which I'd never seen before and which I do like it, a lot. This kind of equations can be reduced by using the change of variable x = z + 1/z, which almost halves the degree, so your equation would be reduced from 7th-degree (usually unsolvable algebraically, thus requiring hyperelliptic functions) to 4th-degree, which is algebraically solvable. C.Ret Wrote:I am trying hard to solve this equation with my HP-15C, hoping that numeric integration, solver and hyperbolic trigonometric are of any use. They certainly are and thanks for participating. I know that you like to be able to use physical calcs in my challenges (as opposed to ultra-fast virtual ones) so these 7 appearances are perfectly suited for you. J-F Garnier Wrote:The most memorable unexpected appearance of pi for me was with the expression: sum(n=1 to Inf,1/n²) = π²/6. So simple ... Well, come to that this is much simpler: J-F Garnier Wrote:Here is my keystroke sequence on the 71B, with my Math 2B to save a few keystrokes: Indeed, those INTEG, IX, FROOT, FX keywords really help, perhaps it even fits in just one line when you also omit the A variable (else you need a DESTROY ALL to guarantee A is not a matrix). I've always hated those needlessly verbose INTEGRAL, FNROOT, IVAR and FVAR keywords, most especially when you've got a puny 22-char display. I wonder who was the inept that decided on those names, probably the same one that decided to waste 2.5 Kb in the useless abomination known as CALC mode or the unused 5 Kb in the original Math Pac, among other assorted imbecilities. J-F Garnier Wrote:While experimenting a bit, I found a few interesting similar expressions: Yes, they're nice alright but not that similar as they do not involve ϕ, the Golden Ratio, which is what I find appealing about this appearance (reversing the equation, \(\pi\), a mighty transcendental number, appears as a simple function of ϕ, the simplest irrational algebraic number and a modest, unassuming infinite product.) J-F Garnier Wrote:I like these two ones! Thank you and yes, among the 7 appearances dealt with here some are exact (in the limit) and others are prefixes of \(\pi\) (the N first digits for various N). For such simple equations, these two are very close approximations. C.Ret Wrote:The next appearance is expected in no less than 243 hrs (10 days) Also, 243 = 35, twin primes ! jonakeys Wrote:edit: remove code panel since it's not allowed Thanks for removing them, jonakeys, and also for including the keycodes in the nicely formatted program listings. Also, congratulations, you nailed the results. ttw Wrote:All the funny Pi stuff connects with a circle, not necessarily directly from a circle, but maybe through angles. O RLY ? Pray tell, where do you find the connection with circles or angles here, in this example I posted at the beginning of my OP ? 1 DESTROY ALL @ RANDOMIZE 260 @ FIX 4 @ INPUT K 2 N=0 @ FOR I=1 TO K @ N=N-MOD(IROUND(RND/RND),2) @ NEXT I @ DISP 1-4*N/K >RUN ? 1E5 -> 3.1416 Or perhaps in the GCD-related Second appearance in my OP ? Do you think the GCD (Greatest Common Divisor) function has something to do with circles or angles ? Please explain how come. DavidM Wrote:If the past is any predictor of the future, I'm sure that Valentin's version will be speedy i[...] Well, not this time. I didn't intend for this to be a regular challenge but a nice celebration of \(\pi\). I just wanted interested people to write simple, minimal code or key sequences to get various incarnations of \(\pi\) to appear on their calc's displays, so no complicated programming, no clever tricks, no timings, just seeing \(\pi\) show up in unexpected places. Thus, this time my original solutions are no better and in particular no faster than those posted here, which are pretty good to begin with. I'll post my original solutions and comments next Thursday so you've got still a few days to try and post solutions to the remaining, yet-to-address appearances, namely the 4th, 6th and 7th. Gotta Catch 'Em All ! V. Edit: two typos. All My Articles & other Materials here: Valentin Albillo's HP Collection |
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03-19-2024, 05:37 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
6th, on Free42:
00 { 83-Byte Prgm } 01▸LBL "A6" 02 0 03 STO 00 04 SIGN 05 STO 01 06▸LBL 00 07 RCL 01 08 ENTER 09 ENTER 10 ENTER 11 512 12 × 13 LASTX 14 RCL+ ST L 15 - 16 × 17 712 18 + 19 × 20 206 21 - 22 × 23 21 24 + 25 R↓ 26 R↓ 27 120 28 × 29 89 30 - 31 × 32 16 33 + 34 X<>Y 35 ÷ 36 16 37 RCL× 00 38 + 39 FP 40 STO 00 41 16 42 × 43 IP 44 HEXM 45 STOP 46 SIGN 47 STO+ 01 48 GTO 00 49 END XEQ A6 -> 2 R/S -> 4 R/S -> 3 R/S -> F R/S -> 6 R/S -> … E R/S -> 0 R/S -> 3 |
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03-19-2024, 09:14 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
ArcTan(x) has the power series: Sum (over k) -1^k * x^(2k) +1)/(2k+1).
ArcTan(1)=Pi/4 Pi/4=1-1/3+1/5-1/ 7... |
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03-19-2024, 09:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2024 09:59 PM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
7th:
When trying to simplify the polynomial equation x³ - 6x² + 4x - 2 = 0, I noticed the change of variable x = y + 2 reduces it to the incomplete cubic equation y³ - 8y - 10 = 0, of the type y³ + p y + q = 0, which can be solved by Cardano’s formula. The real root (only one in this case) is given by y = (-q/2 + √d)^(1/3) + (-q/2 - √d)^(1/3), where d = (p/3)^3 + (q/2)^2 and p = -8; q = -10 Thus y = (5+√(163/27))^(1/3)+(5-√(163/27))^(1/3)) and x = 2 + (5+√(163/27))^(1/3)+(5-√(163/27))^(1/3)) = 5.318628217750185659109680153318022 By replacing x in the given expression we get, on Free 42, log((2+(5+√(163/27))^(1/3)+(5-√(163/27))^(1/3))^24-24)/√163 = 3.141592653589793238462643383279503 which matches exactly all the 34 digits of the built-in constant. The difference to \(\pi\) is about 3.14e-34 in excess, which makes this approximation quite suitable for Free42. The value of the real root of the second polynomial equation can also be given by a more compact expression (see Valentin’s HP-15C Mini-Challenge: Impossibly Short !? for details), which I have used to evaluate the full expression on Free42: y = 4 √(2/3) cosh(1/3 acosh((15 √(3/2))/16)) 00 { 50-Byte Prgm } 01▸LBL "A7" 02 4 03 2 04 3 05 ÷ 06 SQRT 07 × 08 LASTX 09 1/X 10 15 11 × 12 16 13 ÷ 14 ACOSH 15 3 16 ÷ 17 COSH 18 × 19 2 20 + 21 24 22 Y↑X 23 RCL- ST L 24 LN 25 163 26 SQRT 27 ÷ 28 END XEQ A7 -> 3.141592653589793238462643383279503 |
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03-20-2024, 08:16 AM
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(03-14-2024 06:20 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: Let x be the only real root of The most amazing appearance ! Numerically solving the equation on Free42, I got a similar result as Gerson: LBL "F7" MVAR "X" RCL "X" ENTER ENTER ENTER 6 - * 4 + * 2 - RTN SOLVE "F7" for X between 1 and 9 then compute: RCL "X" , 24 , Y^X , 24 , - , LN , 163 , SQRT , / result = 3.141592653589793238462643383279504 within 1 ULP (1E-33) from the built-in PI constant ! Now, let's have a look at X: X = 5.318628217750185659109680153318024 and X^24 = 262537412640768767.9999999999992527 is very close to an integer. Also H = number of hours in a week minus five = 24*7-5 = 163. This reminds us the famous approximation: \(\pi\) ~ ln(640320^3+744) / √(163) based on the so-called Ramanujan's constant. Here the approximation is even better because the value X^24-24 itself is an excellent approximation of this Ramanujan's constant, coming from the root of a very simple 3rd-degree polynomial. Amazing ! J-F |
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03-20-2024, 02:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-20-2024 02:47 PM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
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(03-20-2024 08:16 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote: Here the approximation is even better because the value X^24-24 itself is an excellent approximation of this Ramanujan's constant, coming from the root of a very simple 3rd-degree polynomial. Amazing ! If a tiny bit involving 640320² and a few other perfect squares is added to the second 24 constant then the approximation gets even more amazing: log((2+(5+1/3√(163/3))^(1/3)+(5-1/3√(163/3))^(1/3))^24-(24+1/((32^2+36^2)*640320^2+(41^2+105^2)/69^2)))/√163 or \[\frac{\ln\left[{\left({2+\sqrt[3]{5+\frac{1}{3}\sqrt{\frac{163}{3}}}+\sqrt[3]{5-\frac{1}{3}\sqrt{\frac{163}{3}}}}\right)^{24}-\left({24+\frac{1}{\left({32^2+36^2}\right)\times640320^2+\frac{41^2+105^2}{69^2}}}\right)}\right]}{\sqrt{163}}\] But then Free42 ought to be twice as precise in order to properly evaluate it. Gerson. |
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03-20-2024, 06:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-20-2024 08:17 PM by J-F Garnier.)
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Sorry for a slightly OT comment, but the root computed by Gerson:
(03-19-2024 09:57 PM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote: x = 2 + (5+√(163/27))^(1/3)+(5-√(163/27))^(1/3)) = 5.318628217750185659109680153318022 differs from the root found by the Free42 solver: (03-20-2024 08:16 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote: X = 5.318628217750185659109680153318024 and I had to understand the cause ... Looking closely at the Free42's solver outputs with 1 and 9 as initial estimates, we see: z:0.000000000000000000000000000000036 y:5.318628217750185659109680153318014 x:5.318628217750185659109680153318024 This means the Free42 solver found a sign reversal in f(x) between the values in X and Y, with a value f(X)=3.6e-32, but contrary to the classic HP algorithms, the two numbers in X and Y are not neighbour (they differ by more than 1 ULP). All that Free42 is telling us is that the root is between the values reported in X and Y. But the value in X may not be the best result. We can manually get a more accurate root, with an error less than 1 ULP: 1E-33 , STO- "X" , XEQ "F7": f(5.318628217750185659109680153318023) = 1.4e-32 1E-33 , STO- "X" , XEQ "F7": f(5.318628217750185659109680153318022) = -1.3e-32 this is the true sign reversal, and choosing the estimate with the smallest f(x) magnitude, we can then fully agree with Gerson's result. All is safe ! J-F |
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03-21-2024, 11:33 AM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
(03-20-2024 02:42 PM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote: \[\frac{\ln\left[{\left({2+\sqrt[3]{5+\frac{1}{3}\sqrt{\frac{163}{3}}}+\sqrt[3]{5-\frac{1}{3}\sqrt{\frac{163}{3}}}}\right)^{24}-\left({24+\frac{1}{\left({32^2+36^2}\right)\times640320^2+\frac{41^2+105^2}{69^2}}}\right)}\right]}{\sqrt{163}}\] or, more compactly, \[\frac{\ln\left[{\left({2+\sqrt[3]{5+\frac{\sqrt{489}}{9}}+\sqrt[3]{5-\frac{\sqrt{489}}{9}}}\right)^{24}-24-\frac{1}{2320\times640320^2+\frac{12706}{69^2}}}\right]}{\sqrt{163}}\] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459(320) |
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03-24-2024, 02:54 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
I was curious to see the impact of digit counts with Appearance 6, so I put together two separate RPL versions to check it. These were then run on an emulated 50g for testing.
The first uses built-in (standard) RPL commands to compute a 50-character hex string result: « "" @ hex string initial result 0. @ x0 1. 50. FOR x @ loop x for 50 hex digits 16. * @ 16x(n-1) [120 -89 16] x PEVAL @ numerator polynomial evaluated [512 -1024 712 -206 21] x PEVAL @ denominator polynomial evaluated / + @ compute fraction, accumulate value FP @ we only need the fractional part DUP @ leave a copy of x(n) for next pass 16. * IP @ IP(16x) 10. OVER > @ convert digit value to ascii character 48. 55. IFTE + CHR ROT SWAP + SWAP @ append character to hex string NEXT DROP @ x no longer needed » This provided the following result, yielding 9 accurate digits: 243F6A8882 396F57BAB5... RPL has no built-in multi-precision utilities for floating-point calculations, so I opted to use the LongFloat library to see what kind of impact the digit count had on the final result: \<< "" 0. R\<-\->F 1. 50. FOR x 16. R\<-\->F FMULT '(120*x^2-89*x+16)/(512*x^4-1024*x^3+712*x^2-206*x+21)' \->FNUM FADD FFP DUP R\<-\->F 16. * IP 10. OVER > 48. 55. IFTE + CHR ROT SWAP + SWAP NEXT DROP \>> Repeated runs with increasing numbers of multiple-precision digits showed improvements, as expected: MP Digit Count Hex string matching digits -------------- -------------------------- 12 9 25 20 34 26 40 32 50 40 60 49 62 50 I'm curious as to how the MP digit count compares with other implementations (Python, Lua, etc.). Has anyone else tried this? |
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03-24-2024, 08:30 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
Hi, all, Well, time to post my original solutions. As I said, my intent is to celebrate unusual \(\pi\) appearances by encouraging interested people to write simple code to put various incarnations of \(\pi\) right on the display. Thus, my solutions are pretty plain-vanilla code with no real regard for optimization or speed. That said, here we go: 1. First appearance Solve this equation for x in [1, 6]. These two HP-71B command-line sequences will do the job right from the keyboard, namely: >DESTROY ALL @ STD @ I=INTEGRAL(0,1,1E-10,ATAN(ATANH(IVAR))/IVAR) -> 1.02576051092 >FNROOT(1,6,FVAR*(LN(GAMMA(1/FVAR))-LN(GAMMA(1/2+1/FVAR))-LN(FVAR)/2)-I) 3.14159265358 and, as \(\pi\) is 3.14159265359 when rounded to 12 digits, we've got the correct value save 1 ulp. The value obtained is exact in the limit, not an approximation. The first command-line sequence computes the definite integral, then the second one solves the equation. Were it not for the 96-char command-line length restriction, both lines could be merged into a single one and then neither the DESTROY ALL statement nor the temporary I variable assignment would be needed. I chose this particular expression because I liked the arctan(arctanh(...)) composite function on aesthetical grounds. Furthermore, this definite integral has a closed-form exact value, which is quite infrequent for integrals of transcendental composite functions, and it's not trivial to numerically compute to full accuracy so that the subsequent solve procedure can work with the best value obtainable. 2. Second appearance You can get a nice approximation to the value of \(\pi\) (exact as the number of tries goes to infinity) by following these simple steps. First set Count to zero and select a number of tries N, then:
2. Check if they are coprime, i.e. they have no common factors, in which case increment Count. Keep on performing steps 1 and 2 for N tries, then: 3. Output This 3-line, 102-byte HP-71B program will output the value obtained by using 10, 100, 1000, ..., 1,000,000 tries: 1 DESTROY ALL @ RANDOMIZE 1 @ FOR K=1 TO 6 @ N=10^K @ T=0 2 FOR I=1 TO N @ T=T+(GCD(IP(RND*N+1),IP(RND*N+1))=1) @ NEXT I 3 DISP USING "8D,2X,D.4D";N,SQR(6*N/T) @ NEXT K
10 2.9277 100 3.2733 1000 3.1755 10000 3.1448 100000 3.1449 1000000 3.1415 (1 ulp) Why does this procedure produce \(\pi\) ? Because the probability PN that two randomly chosen integers in [1, ..., N] are coprime approaches 6/\(\pi\)2 as N tends to infinity, and you can derive \(\pi\) from that value. 3. Third appearance Solve this equation for x, where \(\phi\) is the Golden Ratio = (1+√5)/2. This 2-line, 91-byte HP-71B program will output the root obtained by using 10, 100, 1000, ..., 100,000 terms of the infinite product. It does not use any solver but simply isolates x : 1 DESTROY ALL @ FOR K=1 TO 5 @ P=1 @ FOR N=1 TO 10^K @ P=P*(1-1/(100*N*N)) @ NEXT N 2 DISP USING "8D,2X,D.6D";N-1,5/(P*(1+SQR(5))/2) @ NEXT K
10 3.138604 100 3.141280 1000 3.141561 10000 3.141590 100000 3.141592 >DESTROY ALL @ FIX 6 @ K=(1+SQR(5))/2 >P=1 @ FOR N=1 TO 10^5 @ P=P*(1-1/(100*N*N)) @ NEXT N @ 5/(P*K) 3.141592 For 12-digit models such as the HP-71B, there's no point in using more than 100,000 terms of the product, as no additional accuracy will be obtained and in fact the rounding errors resulting from multiplying so many terms will begin to degrade the accuracy noticeably while also greatly increasing the run time. I chose this particular appearance of \(\pi\) because I liked the fact that it produced the exact (in the limit) value of \(\pi\) from \(\phi\) and a short, unremarkable infinite product, as if \(\phi\) was the one which begat \(\pi\) ... 4. Fourth appearances \(\pi\)'s prefixes of any length (first N digits of \(\pi\) for finite N) do actually appear inside irrational numbers, square roots for instance, like these:
√3485 = 59.033888...4733453141592349004.. at decimal 822 √26401 = 162.483845...1905663141592268465.. at decimal 69 √82777 = 287.709923...3523123141592695866.. at decimal 45 (8-long, actually !) ● The 10-long (rounded) prefix 3141592654 appears in: √2424609 = 1557.115602...6896933141592654600235.. at decimal 170 √40850970 = 6391.476355...4838773141592654698929.. at decimal 112 I was hoping that interested readers would look into the matter and come up with some interesting appearances of \(\pi\)'s prefixes in other irrational values, perhaps within logs, trigs or exponentials but it wasn't to be, though I didn't require posting code so people could use more powerful harware/software, yet no one tried. A pity. As for the appearances I posted, I believe them to be a fine compromise between smaller arguments and nearer locations for the first appearances inside the irrational value. Of course you can always find prefixes of any length even for arguments as small as 2 (i.e. √2) but they'll first appear at tremendously deep locations, or else you can find the prefix beginning at the very first decimal place but for enormously large arguments. Thus the need to compromise. 5. Fifth appearances Solve the following equations, either using a program or directly from the keyboard:
These HP-71B command-line sequences will suffice, no programming needed:
>FIX 6 @ FNROOT(3,4,((4*FVAR-22)*FVAR+29)*FVAR+2) -> 3.141593 ● The second polynomial equation is solved by this sequence: >FIX 9 @ FNROOT(1,6,(((9*FVAR-19)*FVAR+28)*FVAR-70)*FVAR-344) -> 3.141592654 ● The first Fermat-like equation is solved by this sequence: >FIX 10 @ FNROOT(1,6,2063^FVAR+8093^FVAR-8128^FVAR) -> 3.1415926535 (1 ulp) ● The second Fermat-like equation is solved by this sequence: >STD @ FNROOT(1,6,1198^FVAR+4628^FVAR-4649^FVAR) -> 3.14159265363 (4 ulp) ● The transcendental equation is solved by this sequence: >FIX 10 @ FNROOT(1,16,GAMMA(LN(7/19*FVAR^5))-16) -> 3.1415926535 (1 ulp) I used a similar ad-hoc approach to find the very short & simple transcendental equation, which I consider amazingly remarkable as it's got a root so close to \(\pi\) while featuring just 6 digits, 2 functions and 3 arithmetic operations in all. How's that for economy of resources ? 6. Sixth appearance Given the following recurrence, with x0 = 0 and { } denoting the fractional part function, write a program to compute its succesive terms x1, x2, x3, .. and for each term output in hexadecimal the value of dn = IP(16 xn ), where IP is the integer part function. Try and output as many correct hex digits as possible. My original solution for the HP-71B is this 3-line, 112-byte plain-vanilla program:
2 X=FP(16*X+(30*M^2-89*M+64)/(8*M^4-64*M^3+178*M^2-206*M+84)) 3 DISP BSTR$(IP(16*X),16);" "; @ NEXT N @ DISP >RUN -> 2 4 3 F 6 A 8 8 8 Using 12-digit arithmetic (HP-71B, HP-42S, etc.) that's the most correct digits we can get but using multiprecision arithmetic it's possible to obtain many more, e.g. using the 34-digit Free42 Decimal emulator with my 49-step, 89-byte program below: 01 LBL "HEXPI" 13 x 25 X<>Y 37 RCLx 00 49 END 02 0 14 64 26 X^2 38 + 03 STO 00 15 - 27 30 39 FP 04 1 16 x 28 x 40 STO 00 05 STO 01 17 178 29 89 41 16 06 ►LBL 00 18 + 30 RCLx ST T 42 x 07 4 19 x 31 - 43 IP 08 RCLx 01 20 206 32 64 44 HEXM 09 ENTER 21 - 33 + 45 STOP 10 ENTER 22 x 34 X<>Y 46 ISG 01 11 ENTER 23 84 35 ÷ 47 LBL 00 12 8 24 + 36 16 48 GTO 00 ► Executing XEQ "HEXPI" and pressing [R/S] after each digit shown we get: 2 4 3 F 6 A 8 8 8 5 A 3 0 8 D 3 1 3 1 9 8 A 2 E 0 3 and the next hex digit is 6, which should be 7 so we've got 26 correct hex digits in all. This recurrence has been checked up to 1,000,000 terms (i.e. hex digits, all of them correct) and it's known that there can only be a finite number of incorrect digits, if at all. Furthermore, if the sequence of xi happens to be uniformly distributed in [0-1] (as indeed it seems to be the case,) then this would imply the normality of \(\pi\) in base 2 (and thus in base 16 as well,) which would be a far-ranging, all-important achievement worthy of a Fields Medal or two, so perhaps you might want to try. Last but not least, I was hoping from the get-go that some of you would use one of the powerful RPL models with multiprecision capabilities to get many more hex digits and luckily lo and behold, DavidM fulfilled my expectations. If any of you would like to try, these are the first 500 hex digits of \(\pi\) (ignore the 3.) for you to check your results: 3.243F6A8885 A308D31319 8A2E037073 44A4093822 299F31D008 2EFA98EC4E 6C89452821 E638D01377 BE5466CF34 E90C6CC0AC 29B7C97C50 DD3F84D5B5 B547091792 16D5D98979 FB1BD1310B A698DFB5AC 2FFD72DBD0 1ADFB7B8E1 AFED6A267E 96BA7C9045 F12C7F9924 A19947B391 6CF70801F2 E2858EFC16 636920D871 574E69A458 FEA3F4933D 7E0D95748F 728EB65871 8BCD588215 4AEE7B54A4 1DC25A59B5 9C30D5392A F26013C5D1 B023286085 F0CA417918 B8DB38EF8E 79DCB0603A 180E6C9E0E 8BB01E8A3E D71577C1BD 314B2778AF 2FDA55605C 60E65525F3 AA55AB9457 48986263E8 144055CA39 6A2AAB10B6 B4CC5C3411 41E8CEA154 7. Seventh appearance Let x be the only real root of x3 - 6 x2 + 4 x - 2 = 0 Compute ln(x24 - 24) ÷ √H, where H is the number of hours in a week minus five. This HP-71B command-line sequence will return the root, an approximation to \(\pi\) correct to a full 12 digits: >STD @ LN(FNROOT(1,10,FVAR^3-6*FVAR^2+4*FVAR-2)^24-24)/SQR(24*7-5) @ PI 3.14159265359 3.14159265359 but again, using the 34-digit Free42 Decimal arithmetic capabilities we can check whether there's additional accuracy to unfold. Using this trivial 15-step, 28-byte Solver program below, we can conduct the following session right from the keyboard: 01 LBL "PIEQ" 09 x 02 MVAR "X" 10 4 03 RCL "X" 11 + 04 ENTER 12 x 05 ENTER 13 2 06 ENTER 14 - 07 6 15 END 08 - - [SOLVER] -> Select Solve Program - Touch PIEQ, 0, touch X, touch X -> 5.31862821775 - Press EXIT twice, 24, y^x, 24, -, LN, 24, ENTER, 7, x, 5, -, SQRT, ÷ 3.14159265359 - Press and hold SHOW -> 3.141592653589793238462643383279504 (34 correct digits save 1 ulp) thus this extremely simple procedure can produce ~ 34 correct digits of \(\pi\) with utmost, unexpected simplicity. Amazing indeed ! Well, that'll be all for now. Thank you very much for your interest to all of you who posted solutions and comments, namely Gerson W. Barbosa, J-F Garnier, DavidM, C.Ret, ttw, Juan14, johnb and jonakeys, much appreciated and I'm glad you enjoyed it. See you all next April 1st. V. All My Articles & other Materials here: Valentin Albillo's HP Collection |
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03-26-2024, 10:27 PM
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Bravo, Valentin!
Some remarkable constructions there. I felt compelled to look into them a bit. I share some notes for other interested parties. For the Fermat-like equations in the 5th appearance, I found the first appears in a 2000 paper by Elkies, but I can't find anything on the second - any pointers? For the hex digits of pi in the 6th appearance, I found a 2001 paper by Bailey and Crandall with the conjecture that there's never a carry from the tail of the sequence into the current digit. (Found via the OEIS) For that 7th appearance, I found some hints of the construction behind the approximation in the Wikipedia page on Heegner numbers. |
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03-27-2024, 11:49 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
(03-24-2024 08:30 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: If any of you would like to try, these are the first 500 hex digits of \(\pi\) (ignore the 3.) for you to check your results:... Re: Appearance 6 The following shows how many multi-precision digits were needed to successfully compute the indicated number of pi hex digits when using the LongFloat library in my previous post. I also included timing info for both a real 50g as well as Emu48 running a 50g instance on my desktop computer: Pi Hex LongFloat DIGITS Duration HP 50g Duration Emu48 Digit Count Required (seconds) (seconds) ----------- ---------------- --------------- -------------- 9 12 10.6696 0.0552 12 17 14.4429 0.0739 15 20 18.0243 0.0942 25 32 30.3909 0.1541 50 62 65.6283 0.3373 75 94 109.7356 0.5425 100 122 166.0343 0.8069 200 242 584.6167 2.6566 300 363 1473.9006 6.5126 400 483 3060.8020 12.9928 500 603 5566.3005 23.1306 600 724 - 38.7625 700 844 - 59.5496 800 965 - 86.4680 900 1085 - 121.5936 1000 1206 - 164.3663 2000 2410 - 1269.4080 Thanks Valentin for the celebration! |
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03-28-2024, 11:37 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
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Hi, DavidM, (03-27-2024 11:49 PM)DavidM Wrote: Re: Appearance 6 Thank you very much, DavidM, an excellent batch of results and a great demonstration of your RPL model's power, be it in physical or virtual form, much appreciated. Come to think about it, your calc's multi-precision capabilities would be ideal to have a go at the 4th Appearances sub-challenge, which it's been left orphaned so far. You can try and get an appearance of a \(\pi\)'s prefix of some non-trivial length in a trig, log, or exponential irrational number, such as the often-neglected e, for instance ? Quote:Thanks Valentin for the celebration! You're welcome, thanks to you for your appreciation and your worthwhile results, they surely took a sizable amount of time (and batteries!) to obtain. Best regards. V. All My Articles & other Materials here: Valentin Albillo's HP Collection |
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03-29-2024, 12:35 PM
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RE: [VA] SRC #016 - Pi Day 2024 Special
(03-28-2024 11:37 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: Come to think about it, your calc's multi-precision capabilities would be ideal to have a go at the 4th Appearances sub-challenge, which it's been left orphaned so far. You can try and get an appearance of a \(\pi\)'s prefix of some non-trivial length in a trig, log, or exponential irrational number, such as the often-neglected e, for instance ? I actually did do a few runs with Appearance 4, but only using the square root method of your example. Then Appearance 6 caught my attention, and I never cycled back to experiment with other options. When time permits I'll try that again. So far, I've identified 171 instances of at least "3141592" using 1000 for the DIGITS setting. I've got some gaps in the ranges of testing, though. (03-28-2024 11:37 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote: ...they surely took a sizable amount of time (and batteries!) to obtain. No worries there, as I was running on USB power for the real 50g tests. |
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