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The Rogue HP-12c
09-14-2024, 12:26 PM
Post: #21
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
(09-13-2024 09:30 PM)dm319 Wrote:  Being a cheap bastard is better than having a really bad sense humour.

Unfortunately I cannot read the Bloomberg article (no account).

I knew about Mike Lynch's demise from his "yacht" sinking. I didn't know (or forgot) that HP was trying to get US$4 billion from him (or his now estate).

That's a boatload (pun intended) of calculators! Even Brazillian ones at the bottom of the ocean Smile

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PS: Did Lynch use a "Rogue HP-12C" while at Autonomy? Does that explain the "over-valuation" HP is mad about?

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09-14-2024, 01:01 PM
Post: #22
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
(09-14-2024 12:26 PM)AnnoyedOne Wrote:  PS: Did Lynch use a "Rogue HP-12C" while at Autonomy? Does that explain the "over-valuation" HP is mad about?

This thing goes deeper than we ever imagined.
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Yesterday, 02:54 PM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 02:54 PM by dm319.)
Post: #23
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
Thought I would do a little video to demonstrate a few things:

  1. The comma bug
  2. IRR example error
  3. Digit precision
  4. Divide by zero issue
  5. A few TVM differences

See here.

A couple of things I haven't done:
- I can't compare on video to an HP-12c. Maybe in retrospect I should have explained what you would have got on the HP-12c, but it is pretty similar behaviour to the HP-12c platinum but returns 10 digits rather than a maximum of 12. I also didn't show you the full 16 digit precision (just 15).

I couple of thoughts - some effort has clearly gone into making this device match an HP-12c - the way the stack lifts for example, and returning only an integer N.
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Yesterday, 03:23 PM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 03:34 PM by AnnoyedOne.)
Post: #24
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
(Yesterday 02:54 PM)dm319 Wrote:  Thought I would do a little video to demonstrate...

I watched it. Not sure that counts (except for Ewetoob hits). Smile

Comma bug ==> no "user error". Real.

And we now know your real name. And have heard your Brit accent Smile

I keep my online identity deliberately secret. Decades ago I used my real first name and location on a forum site. Another user tracked down a photo of me (and someone else) that I'd taken with my camera (self-timer). Uploaded to the internet without my knowledge/consent. Not to any social-media site either. A small rarely viewed one.

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PS: GCHQ/NSA/etc already know enough about me.

PPS: I created this online pseudonym about 25 years ago. I'm not really "annoyed" but had already created it.

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Yesterday, 03:41 PM
Post: #25
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
(Yesterday 03:23 PM)AnnoyedOne Wrote:  I watched it. Not sure that counts (except for Ewetoob hits). Smile

My commiserations for sitting through it! I notice it's on 3 views, so that's you, me and one other (..looking around...).

(Yesterday 03:23 PM)AnnoyedOne Wrote:  PPS: I created this online pseudonym about 25 years ago. I'm not really "annoyed" but had already created it.

I am glad you have mellowed over years. Yes, the gap between by real name and pseudonym has been breached many times already.
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Yesterday, 03:51 PM
Post: #26
RE: The Rogue HP-12c
(Yesterday 03:41 PM)dm319 Wrote:  My commiserations for sitting through it!

None needed. Now I've seen your 12CP as well.

(Yesterday 03:41 PM)dm319 Wrote:  I notice it's on 3 views...

My main browser is very much "secured". Youtube (i.e. Google) recently changed something so now I often have use another (not as secured) one to watch videos. Google still can't learn much about me though.

(Yesterday 03:41 PM)dm319 Wrote:  Yes, the gap between by real name and pseudonym has been breached many times already.

For better or worse I know how such things can be used against you.

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