HP 12c, 12cp and 15c apps now available in the Android store again!

[Radim Frydrych]

Hello all,

I bring the next good news, the last for this week

Some of you may have noticed that the emulator apps for Android were not available in the Google Play Store since the end of 2023. The reason was that the apps didn't support the latest Android devices.

Starting from Q2 2024, we took over the app maintenance and immediately started working on getting the apps back to the store, which just happened today. The only apps that still need to be fixed are the HP Prime apps, which should be done in August.

We are also planning to bring some new features to the original apps. I will keep you posted on this!

Please click on the models below to download the apps:
15C
12CP
12C

Unfortunately, one bad news. We had to re-upload the original apps due to a technical issue, which may cause some troubles for people who have the "old" apps - migrating to the new phone, wanting to get a future update, etc.

As we are aware that this might happen, if you need any help, you can send me DM.

Note: Apps don't show up when you type their name in the Google Play Store search box yet, but that should improve in the future.

Radim Frydrych, PM at MORAVIA Consulting.

[cdmackay]

That's great news, thanks very much Radim.

As these are (quite expensive) paid apps, what do those of us who have bought the apps before do?

[Gamo]

Thanks for the update since I already got 12C, 12C Platinum and 15C

Since the app price is going up I think it should add more feature like

be able to Save and Load Program.

Thank You

Gamo

[Vincent Weber]

Hi,

Great news!

I actually rebought it to see whether there were some changes, thinking I could get a refund within 48 hours. But Google refused the refund, after the 15 minutes I took to check it was the same I already had from Hp...
Could you help with the refund?

Many thanks in advance and best regards,

Vincent Weber

[Johnh]

hi Radin,
I'm really glad you guys brought these back, and you might have seen a quick comparison review that I posted yesterday.

It's so great that you do this, and as the guardians and owners of the hp brand, I really hope that it works for you and that your apps can leverage off the real calcs to be the best available versions.

I see above that now they are back that you may have some feature updates in the pipeline and so I put a 'wish-list' in my other post. I'm sure they'll come a time when the market around these classic designs will fade away, but I reckon you have a few years yet as those of us who started our careers in the 80's look back and wish for "an elegant weapon, for a more civilised age..."

[Radim Frydrych]

(07-26-2024 08:09 PM)cdmackay Wrote:  That's great news, thanks very much Radim.

As these are (quite expensive) paid apps, what do those of us who have bought the apps before do?

Hello, I will keep you updated on this. We are still exploring the possibilities on how to do the transition, as it will be especially important once we bring an updated version of the app.

[Radim Frydrych]

(07-27-2024 07:58 AM)Gamo Wrote:  Thanks for the update since I already got 12C, 12C Platinum and 15C

Since the app price is going up I think it should add more feature like

be able to Save and Load Program.

Thank You

Gamo

save/load is one of the features we are planning to include.

[Radim Frydrych]

(07-27-2024 01:06 PM)Vincent Weber Wrote:  Hi,

Great news!

I actually rebought it to see whether there were some changes, thinking I could get a refund within 48 hours. But Google refused the refund, after the 15 minutes I took to check it was the same I already had from Hp...
Could you help with the refund?

Many thanks in advance and best regards,

Vincent Weber

Hello, why the refund was rejected? Unfortunately, I can not assist here, as we don't have access thought the Google to the end user and their purchases.

The new app you purchased will bring new features in next couple of months. Republishing was just the first step, that will be followed by another updates.

[Radim Frydrych]

(07-27-2024 08:05 PM)Johnh Wrote:  hi Radin,
I'm really glad you guys brought these back, and you might have seen a quick comparison review that I posted yesterday.

It's so great that you do this, and as the guardians and owners of the hp brand, I really hope that it works for you and that your apps can leverage off the real calcs to be the best available versions.

I see above that now they are back that you may have some feature updates in the pipeline and so I put a 'wish-list' in my other post. I'm sure they'll come a time when the market around these classic designs will fade away, but I reckon you have a few years yet as those of us who started our careers in the 80's look back and wish for "an elegant weapon, for a more civilised age..."

thank you for your support! Can you please send me the link for your function wish-list? Or maybe copy the list here?
We already created a list of both function and design adjustments that is currently under evaluation, but we are of course open to any new idea.

[Johnh]

Hi Radim, Thanks very much for replying! here's my thread where I compared current Hp15c apps:

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-22091.html

I was looking at the official Hp15 app, plus TouchRPN and Jovial JRPN15. Then Mark suggested Pockemul too

This was my suggested 'wish list'

1. An option to trim and stretch the display like TouchRPN, suppressing phone information to maximise the working area
2. Program code text output as JRPN with line numbers, key-codes and key names
3. Save states as JRPN and TouchRPN, very useful for testing
4. Graphics like the official HP app, maybe with a tad lighter LCD
5. Stretch wish…. Connectivity compatibility with HP15c_CE windows app and firmware for program transfer from the real calculator to the pc to the App.

[Radim Frydrych]

(07-30-2024 08:50 AM)Johnh Wrote:  Hi Radim, Thanks very much for replying! here's my thread where I compared current Hp15c apps:

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-22091.html

I was looking at the official Hp15 app, plus TouchRPN and Jovial JRPN15. Then Mark suggested Pockemul too

This was my suggested 'wish list'

1. An option to trim and stretch the display like TouchRPN, suppressing phone information to maximise the working area
2. Program code text output as JRPN with line numbers, key-codes and key names
3. Save states as JRPN and TouchRPN, very useful for testing
4. Graphics like the official HP app, maybe with a tad lighter LCD
5. Stretch wish…. Connectivity compatibility with HP15c_CE windows app and firmware for program transfer from the real calculator to the pc to the App.

Thank you. I will follow up on this topic in your thread.

[cdmackay]

(07-30-2024 08:16 AM)Radim Frydrych Wrote:  Hello, I will keep you updated on this. We are still exploring the possibilities on how to do the transition, as it will be especially important once we bring an updated version of the app.

that's great, thanks very much Radim.

[avsebastian]

and...... HP Prime ???

[Radim Frydrych]

(08-03-2024 03:35 AM)avsebastian Wrote:  and...... HP Prime ???

Prime should be available in the next few weeks.

[Vincent Weber]

(07-30-2024 08:22 AM)Radim Frydrych Wrote:  

(07-27-2024 01:06 PM)Vincent Weber Wrote:  Hi,

Great news!

I actually rebought it to see whether there were some changes, thinking I could get a refund within 48 hours. But Google refused the refund, after the 15 minutes I took to check it was the same I already had from Hp...
Could you help with the refund?

Many thanks in advance and best regards,

Vincent Weber

Hello, why the refund was rejected? Unfortunately, I can not assist here, as we don't have access thought the Google to the end user and their purchases.

The new app you purchased will bring new features in next couple of months. Republishing was just the first step, that will be followed by another updates.

Hello,
Thanks for your reply. No idea why the refund was rejected. But if you are saying that the new features will be only available in the new app, not in the old HP one (is it really the case?), then I'd rather keep it!
Cheers

[BuSchu]

Nice, but the HP-12CP has a bug: The factorial function is useless, it gives the value 9.999.. E99 for all input values.

[AnnoyedOne]

(10-10-2024 04:54 PM)BuSchu Wrote:  ...it gives the value 9.999.. E99 for all input values.

Just tried my HP PC Platinum emulator from 2012.

10! returned 3,628,800.00

I don't have one for Android. I do have HP-12C and HP-15C ones though.

The PC versions can be found on archive.org and are free.

Want a 192 register emulator for the HP-15C?

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-22453.html

A1

[johanw]

They published the apps with new application ID's, so I paid for the app com.hp.hp15c15 (HP15C), which is removed, now they have a new app com.hpcalcs.hp15c15 for which I have to pay again. Same for the 12C and 12CP apps which I also bought.

No way that is going to happen. :-( Fortunately I am in the habbit of saving apk's somewhere safe, certainly for paid ones, so I still can use these old ones on a new phone.

[AnnoyedOne]

(10-11-2024 09:06 PM)johanw Wrote:  Fortunately I am in the habbit of saving apk's somewhere safe, certainly for paid ones, so I still can use these old ones on a new phone.

I do the same thing. Save any installers (.apk files) in case you need to reinstall on the same device or another. FYI reinstalling over an older version performs an upgrade (assuming the same app ID).

A1

PS: While doing a web search for something Platinum completely unrelated I came across

HP-12C Platinum v1.1.5 2015-5-18 21:17 for Android 4.1+.

I tried it and it works. Free. Don't ask for the URL as I didn't save it.

PPS: The above also calculates n! correctly

https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-22...#pid193143

[AnnoyedOne]

(10-13-2024 06:21 PM)johanw Wrote:  ...these are the last versions of the old app ID for Android

Mine are older but not much has changed from the release notes I've found. Support for later versions of Android etc. The "new" (paid) ones probably won't install/work on my tablet anyway.

A1