Mac OSX and PIL-box
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04-19-2016, 12:20 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
I have two PIL-Box and here is what I am seeing
PIL-Box #1 S/N: P097 -> /dev/tty.usbserial-FTFSPEHU PIL-Box #2 S/N: P131 -> /dev/tty.usbserial-AE006AJX So from what we are seeing with our little sample, the safest filtering pattern would probably be "/dev/tty.usbserial-*" Sylvain |
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10-04-2016, 10:52 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(04-18-2016 08:45 PM)dayd Wrote: - Thanks Dave, I didn't saw this tread that seams interesting indeed, I will try to follow even I’m on 41CX for now. HI, I installed the PYILPER on my MAC with MINICONDA. Configuration of PYILPER afterwards was very easy the program detects the PIL-Box itself correct as: /dev/tty.usbserial-FT90JAEU (it is the PILBOX from spring 2016) nothing to do. I'm very happy with this configuration (after a little problem with the terminal). best regards Erwin |
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10-04-2016, 04:18 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-13-2015 04:11 PM)Egan Ford Wrote:Quote:[quote] Thank you for sharing this backup program used it now for backup my HP71 through PIL-BOX. Cause all programs are in main ram. So I can start with configuration of FRAM71 :-) best regards Erwin |
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07-26-2021, 03:29 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
Hi,
I’m reviving the older thread because I’ve tried what has been discussed here, but nothing seems to be working for me. My setup is like so: macOS Catalina (latest iteration) The correct macOS drivers Crossover PIL-BOX HP41CL When launching ILPer, I get “Application returned 53”, whatever that means… I did exactly what the above-mentioned tutorial suggested… Any suggestions would be appreciated. Here the log: Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-27-2021, 12:05 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
Serial and USB ports with Crossover (aka WINE for macOS) is a hit and miss at best, with more misses than hits.
Virtual IL devices from Christoph Gießelink works perfectly with Windows 7/10 under VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktop on macOS. I mostly use pyILPER from Joachim Siebold on macOS these days. Sylvain |
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07-27-2021, 01:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2021 01:53 PM by Neve.)
Post: #26
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-27-2021 12:05 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Serial and USB ports with Crossover (aka WINE for macOS) is a hit and miss at best, with more misses than hits. Hi Sylvain, I’ve successfully used Christoph’s virtual devices with Parallels. But if I can avoid having to launch a virtual environment just for that purpose, that would be nice. I’ll give pyILER a try. But from what I read so far, it seems to be a real pain to install. Thank you (again!!) ;-) Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-27-2021, 02:55 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-27-2021 01:47 PM)Neve Wrote: I’ll give pyILER a try. But from what I read so far, it seems to be a real pain to install.Not that hard IMHO Installation procedure on macOS:
To run pyILPER, from the command line type: Code: pyilper [return] Sylvain |
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07-27-2021, 04:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2021 04:17 PM by Erwin.)
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-27-2021 02:55 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:I use the installation with pyilper on my MAC too with Miniconda (https://docs.conda.io/en/latest/miniconda.html) installation and it's straight forward without fiddling around with settings or VMs.(07-27-2021 01:47 PM)Neve Wrote: I’ll give pyILER a try. But from what I read so far, it seems to be a real pain to install.Not that hard IMHO Give it a try, I'm sure you are satisfied. regards Erwin |
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07-27-2021, 05:00 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-27-2021 02:55 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(07-27-2021 01:47 PM)Neve Wrote: I’ll give pyILER a try. But from what I read so far, it seems to be a real pain to install.Not that hard IMHO This is the installation that I have been using on my MacBook Pro all along. It works perfectly well - I have the latest Mac OS Big Sur, but this installation has been working for me for the last few (or more) versions of Mac OS. Thanks a million (again) to Sylvain for publishing his simple and easy instructions on how to get this done! I just re-tried those instructions, and all is well for me. smp |
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07-27-2021, 07:35 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
Thank you ALL. I will try all that when I get back home.
Regards Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-28-2021, 12:12 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
From the pyILPER Installation Instructions.
https://github.com/bug400/pyilper/blob/m...a-platform The Anaconda distribution installs more than 150 Python packages on your computer which are not needed to run pyILPER. Therefore, it is recommended to use the Miniconda installer instead which only provides Python and the Anaconda package manager. I can't speak for the Mac community, but for Windows I only install Miniconda. Dave |
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07-28-2021, 10:11 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
To all that have helped. I’ve tried both Anaconda and Microconda and they work just fine.
Thank you. I’m new to the world of HP emulators and also to the PIL-BOX. I’ve always used my machines stand-alone. Only recently have I installed Genesis-41 and V41. To may of you this is probably trivial, but so far I’ve succeeded in connecting the HP41’s to macOS and Pyilper (thanks to this thread), to Win10 using Parallels Desktop and both PyIlper and ILPer, and to a real PC with Win10. I haven’t succeeded in connecting V41 (Crossover) to Pyilper. Q: Why did I even try? A: Just for the heck of it. I haven’t tried connecting Genesis-41 to PyIlper either. But I doubt it’s possible. I’m sharing the same HP41 PyIlper/ILPer virtual drives between all the different platforms and emulators. That would be nice to have the same ones Genesis-41. Just because… As I learn all these new features (to me), I see some things that I would like to see added, as well as some “bugs”. But I haven’t probably explored enough yet, and those features I’d like are already there. Both are extremely nice, and definitely a huge and positive change from magnetic cards and cassette drives, etc…. But to me (no offense) PyIlper seems to be overall a bit more “polished” than ILPer. The plotter, as well as the ability to add more peripherals to the loop, are a nice addition. The downside is that you have to launch it with a command line. Being a hardcore Unix guy, I don’t mind, but that would be nice to have a more modern way to do it. That was my 2cts after just a few hours playing with the different versions and features. I’d be happy to hear your experience as well. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-28-2021, 11:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2021 10:53 AM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-28-2021 10:11 PM)Neve Wrote: The downside is that you have to launch it with a command line. Being a hardcore Unix guy, I don’t mind, but that would be nice to have a more modern way to do it.Automator, allow you to create a mac app that will call pyilper for you. Do the following:
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07-29-2021, 06:38 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-28-2021 11:39 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(07-28-2021 10:11 PM)Neve Wrote: The downside is that you have to launch it with a command line. Being a hardcore Unix guy, I don’t mind, but that would be nice to have a more modern way to do it.Automator, allow you to create a mac app that will call pyilper for you. Yes Sylvain. I had totally forgotten about the Automator!!! Thanks!!! I works fine. So is Crossover V41 with PyILPer, BTW. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-29-2021, 07:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2021 07:59 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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07-29-2021, 08:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2021 08:19 PM by Neve.)
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-29-2021 07:54 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:(07-29-2021 06:38 PM)Neve Wrote: So is Crossover V41 with PyILPer, BTW.??? ... just in case, Crossover is not needed to run pyilper, but you do need Crossover to run V41. Oh yes, I know that. I meant that they now work well together. They have no trouble communicating, V41 through Crossover, and the other one natively. It wasn’t working yesterday for some obscure reason. Engineer & Senior IT Executive 2x HP41CL, HP41CX, HP48GX, HP50g, 2x82162A Printer, 2x82143A Printer, 2x HP-IL, 2x Card-Readers, PIL-BOX. |
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07-29-2021, 08:34 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(07-29-2021 08:19 PM)Neve Wrote:ok, perfect, have fun!(07-29-2021 07:54 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: ??? ... just in case, Crossover is not needed to run pyilper, but you do need Crossover to run V41.Oh yes, I know that. I meant that they now work well together. They have no trouble communicating, V41 through Crossover, and the other one natively. |
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11-30-2021, 08:12 PM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
I am the new owner of a PIL-Box. While I am able to use ilper on Windows 10, I have yet to use ilper on Mac OS X without the Linux version of ilper in C hanging. I start it, am able to bring up help, but after I start the emulation it becomes unresponsive. I then have to kill the process. This leaves the terminal window in raw mode.
My setup is unusual, in that I have a USB TO serial adapter that is connected to the HP82164A serial interface. This allows me to use a terminal window as a display and keyboard device for my HP41 via a C program that I wrote. My program uses a different device file from ILPer, so there should be no confusion there, but not necessarily. Also the PIL-Box and USB adapter should have their own device drivers. Any ideas? Steve |
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12-01-2021, 01:21 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
(11-30-2021 08:12 PM)Steve Nichols Wrote: I am the new owner of a PIL-Box. While I am able to use ilper on Windows 10, I have yet to use ilper on Mac OS X without the Linux version of ilper in C hanging. I start it, am able to bring up help, but after I start the emulation it becomes unresponsive. I then have to kill the process. This leaves the terminal window in raw mode. You are saying "ilper", which is Windows-only program, yet are discussing issues while running on a Mac and Linux. Do you actually mean pyILPer? --Bob Prosperi |
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12-01-2021, 01:29 AM
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RE: Mac OSX and PIL-box
Ilper is also the name of version 1.35.2 written for Linux in C using the curses library.
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