Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
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06-13-2016, 12:23 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-10-2016 07:24 PM)PANAMATIK Wrote: Recently I released an HP-67 emulator for Windows ... more microcode emulators for the Classic ... Woodstock ... and Spice models. You can download them for free. Although it seems obvious, an installation other than the TTF IS needed (see attachment:[attachment=3664] ) and MS dotNet is assumed to already be installed? I'm so confused! SlideRule |
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06-13-2016, 12:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-13-2016 12:37 PM by PANAMATIK.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-13-2016 12:23 AM)SlideRule Wrote:(06-10-2016 07:24 PM)PANAMATIK Wrote: Recently I released an HP-67 emulator for Windows ... more microcode emulators for the Classic ... Woodstock ... and Spice models. You can download them for free. I'm sorry for the confusion. You are right, the so called Microsoft .NET Version 3.5 run time environment or higher must be installed too. Normally AFAIK this is already included in Windows XP and higher as part of the operating system. If not, you have to install it. The .NET environment allows you to run any C# or Visual Basic code compiled by Microsoft Visual Studio. Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-14-2016, 04:19 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-13-2016 12:35 PM)PANAMATIK Wrote: You are right, the so called Microsoft .NET Version 3.5 run time environment or higher must be installed too. Normally AFAIK this is already included in Windows XP and higher as part of the operating system. No, it is not. .NET 3.5 was released some 6 years after Windows XP release and is included with Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. Windows XP Home/Professional editions don't have any .NET installed by default. Windows XP Media Center and Tablet PC editions have .NET 1.0 installed. https://www.hrastprogrammer.com/hrastwood/ https://hrastprogrammer.bandcamp.com/ |
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06-14-2016, 07:10 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-14-2016 04:19 AM)HrastProgrammer Wrote:(06-13-2016 12:35 PM)PANAMATIK Wrote: You are right, the so called Microsoft .NET Version 3.5 run time environment or higher must be installed too. Normally AFAIK this is already included in Windows XP and higher as part of the operating system. I can confirm it doesn't run on MS-DOS 6.22 either! :D Greetings, Massimo -+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong |
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06-14-2016, 07:29 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-14-2016 07:10 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:(06-14-2016 04:19 AM)HrastProgrammer Wrote: No, it is not. Even more interesting would have been DosBox on an android device |
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06-14-2016, 09:28 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-14-2016 04:19 AM)HrastProgrammer Wrote: No, it is not..... I apologize for the false information. AFAIKN this is already included in Windows 7 and higher as part of the operating system. It can be installed in Windows XP. It cannot be installed in DOS. Though porting the emulators to DOS, Win98 or CP/M (without image) or Amiga or VC64 needs some work, but is nevertheless possible. Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-14-2016, 10:33 AM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-14-2016 09:28 AM)PANAMATIK Wrote:(06-14-2016 04:19 AM)HrastProgrammer Wrote: No, it is not..... My previous comment was only tongue in cheek, of course... ;) Greetings, Massimo -+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong |
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06-16-2016, 09:28 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
I have played with the hp67 emulator today.
It is really nice! But there are two things I had trouble with. 1) I tried to use programs for the HP 67E new ACT and the mnemonics seem to be slightly different. CL REG is now CLREG, : is / and all the test need a "?" After those changes "factors and primes" is running. 2) Maybe I made a mistake somewhere, but the user diagnostic program gives strange results. I'll post details tomorrow Harald |
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06-17-2016, 08:27 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-17-2016 09:06 AM by Harald.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-16-2016 09:28 PM)Harald Wrote: I'll post details tomorrow Ok, here comes the "Factors and Primes" code for the Emulator: Code:
And here the code I used for the HP67E with new ACT: Code:
This is the User Diagnostics code that works as advertised in the HP67E with new ACT: Code:
And here comes the "User Diagnostic" program for the emulator: Code:
It ends with error code 45. Edit: this might help: |
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06-18-2016, 07:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2016 11:42 AM by PANAMATIK.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-17-2016 08:27 AM)Harald Wrote: It ends with error code 45. You have to add the MODE section which sets F0 and F3 in the diagnostic program before loading or set F0 and F3 before running . MODE DEG FIX 2 1 0 0 1 I forgot to mention the MODE section in the manual. An updated manual will follow. Added: The user manual is updated. And I released new versions of the HP-25 and HP-29 Emulators Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-18-2016, 01:07 PM
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06-18-2016, 02:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2016 09:43 PM by Harald.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 07:41 AM)PANAMATIK Wrote:(06-17-2016 08:27 AM)Harald Wrote: It ends with error code 45. Great! I'll try that. Thanks for the quick reply as usual! What about the Mnemonics? Are they really different from what you used for the new ACT or was I using an old version of the flash tool? Cheers, Harald Edit: I should write from my mobile phone - just corrected a lot of typos... |
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06-18-2016, 03:21 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 02:50 PM)Harald Wrote: What about the Mnemonics? Ate they really differen't ftom what you used for the new ACT or wad I using an old version of the flash tool? You are using the actual version. The mnemonics for the HP-67/HP25/HP29 Emulators are slightly different compared to the new ACT, because I thought to make an improvement i.e. x=y? is better than just x=y. For compatibility I think I have to make a new version of the flash tool, which accepts either the old and the new syntax. Thus there will be no problems to keep old versions of programs. Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-18-2016, 03:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2016 03:24 PM by PANAMATIK.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 01:07 PM)Bill (Smithville NJ) Wrote: I just tested the HP-25 on the Windows Tablet with touch and it works great! It's a pleasure to get this feedback from you! Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-18-2016, 04:48 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-17-2016 08:27 AM)Harald Wrote: And here comes the "User Diagnostic" program for the emulator: This program does not run on Bernhard's HP67 emulator since it uses the old syntax (e.g. tests without "?", "CL REG", ":" etc.). But you also wrote: Code: ; (Note that a real HP-67 returns -8.888888888-88 since it doesn't round the last digit correctly.) The program calculates 1/9E+87 which is 1,111111111E–88 and then this is multiplied by –8, which is –8,888888888E–88. This is exactly what the HP67 emulator returns (and I hope a real HP67 does so as well). Why should it display 8,88...9 instead? Dieter |
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06-18-2016, 07:34 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
HP-65 Emulator released !!!
The Classic Emulator set now contains also the HP-65 calculator. This piece was really missing. I'm proud to have this running as a C# PC application now, because it was a real challenge and I needed the whole week for debugging. Many thanks to Francois Roulet, close friend of the late Jaques Laporte, who gave me the HP-65 Microcode and Jaques original java program. This was a great help and I don't know whether I would have succeded without it. Download the famous HP-65 as your PC emulation. The manual update will follow. Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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06-18-2016, 10:15 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 04:48 PM)Dieter Wrote: The program calculates 1/9E+87 which is 1,111111111E–88 and then this is multiplied by –8, which is –8,888888888E–88. This is exactly what the HP67 emulator returns (and I hope a real HP67 does so as well). Confirmed on real HP-67. --Bob Prosperi |
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06-18-2016, 10:22 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 07:34 PM)PANAMATIK Wrote: HP-65 Emulator released !!! Thanks Bernhard. 2 whiney little requests: 1. When you release a new version, could you name it something like HP67Emulator_v1.04.zip ? It's likely I will always use only the latest version, but it's confusing to keep track (a small side effect of how amazingly fast you update these ) 2. Can you post the Emulator Document separate from the original .zip file? Perhaps at the top of the page for each series of machines? --Bob Prosperi |
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06-18-2016, 10:55 PM
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
Hi Bernhard,
I'm playing around with the HP-25 and it works wonderful. I do have one (hopefully small) request: Could the save/load program file include line numbers? The HP-25, as well as a few others, does not have the LBL key, but uses line number addressing. It would make the file easier to read/understand. Bill Smithville, NJ |
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06-19-2016, 04:56 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2016 06:29 AM by PANAMATIK.)
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RE: Classic, Woodstock and Spice Emulators
(06-18-2016 10:55 PM)Bill (Smithville NJ) Wrote: Hi Bernhard, It would be easy to add line numbers when saving the PROGRAM section. Also register numbers could be added in the DATA section. But line numbers have advantages and not. If you create a program with a text editor you have more work and you cannot insert or delete steps easily. When reading the file I'm not sure how to handle line numbers, which are not properly lined up. Do you have a text editor which shows line numbers? Just subtract 3. Bernhard That's one small step for a man - one giant leap for mankind. |
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